Thanks for responding. My phone has only just arrived back in China so I still have a day or so before I find out what is happening!
I was really enjoying my phone before it died. But if it isn't going to be compatible with snaps then I'm sorely tempted to find something that will be so I can tinker with UT in the future. I guess my question now is what is the base requirements that are needed for snaps? Searching through the snaps requirements I can't find this anywhere (and perhaps I need to ask on the snapcraft mailing list instead - although there was a question back in December basically asking that with no reply). However for example Docker lists it's minimum as kernel version as 3.10. The Meizu Pro 5 has a kernel version of 3.10. BQ Aquaris E5 is 3.4, while the M10 source is up to 3.18 (as is the LG V20 for example for a newly released phone). The interesting thing is something like the Moto G4 is rolling out Nougat - but it hasn't updated the kernel version (it is still on 3.10) - so that potentially answers my question about whether the FlymeOS update coming this year would result in the potential to support snaps. On 10 January 2017 at 01:48, Seth Ciango <seth.cia...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Contributions aren't just limited to code. One of the things we've always > said from the beginning of Ubuntu is that all contributions are valuable. > It's not just the code contributions. The translations and documentation > and advocacy and events and asking and answering questions are all valued > just as much as code contributions." --Jane Silber > > Unfortunately for Kirk, getting a straight answer out of Canonical seems > impossible right now. I think he and many other people would be content > with an honest, "I don't know. We're not certain right now." I hope the > communication improves soon. I understand that some people may not be > allowed to answer certain questions at the moment. > > However, Kirk bought a $300+ phone and is wondering if he should keep it > or get a refund. So his inquiry is perhaps a little more time sensitive for > him, and I'm surprised that no one has responded. > > Well, Kirk, I have not seen anybody confirm that the Meizu Pro 5 will > receive any meaningful updates in the future. It is a beautiful phone, but > it may not be fully functional for you and may never become your daily > driver. The bluetooth headset functionality does not work. It is fine for > listening to music but not for taking calls. If you are ok with that and > just want to tinker, then you'll be fine. If you want the phone to replace > your current phone as your daily driver, you may want a refund. > > This bug report will give you more information on the headphone issue: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1590844 > > As you can see, the bug and the contributors have been abandoned and there > is no indication that the bug will ever be resolved or even worked on. > > If the Meizu Pro 5 receives a snap-based distro upgrade, there is a good > chance that the bug and many other bugs will be resolved by the newer > kernel and newer software. As of right now, it looks like the programmers' > hands are tied, and they can not fix such a critical bug. > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Kirk Turner <gamel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm certainly interested to know what that state will be with the Meizu >> Pro 5... as I'm in the interesting position that I might get to choose in >> the next few days whether I get a replacement Pro 5 or a refund for mine >> which died a month after I bought it. I got a Flyme OS one and it was going >> to be my Christmas holiday project converting it to Ubuntu... but it died >> before I got the opportunity and so the Christmas project became tracking >> the postage back to China. >> >> I know there is talk about upgrading Flyme OS to be Nougat based this >> year - but would that necessarily see kernel upgrades (such that the phone >> will be able to run snaps)? >> >> I guess the related question is from others that have the Pro 5 if I was >> just very unlucky or others have had hardware issues? Everything I've read >> suggested they a solidly built phone. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kirk >> >> On 6 January 2017 at 01:26, Seth Ciango <seth.cia...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Pat, >>> >>> Could you clarify something that others keep bringing up. Are the >>> current BQ and Meizu devices going to be left to wither on the vine when a >>> Xenial image is released or will users be able to flash and wipe their >>> phones with a new Xenial image? >>> >>> Is there a current phone on the market that is the target for future >>> Xenial development? >>> >>> Is there a current phone on the market that runs a partially functioning >>> Xenial image? >>> >>> You've probably answered these questions already, but there still seems >>> to be some confusion since it sounds like you are saying that ALL current >>> Ubuntu phones are End-of-Life and that no new phones currently exist. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Seth >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Pat McGowan <pat.mcgo...@canonical.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, <gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with >>>>> >>>>>> the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use >>>>>> Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all for your patience >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the >>>>> current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone happy. If >>>>> we understand what is going on then nobody begins to worry about the >>>>> silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except having to find the >>>>> money >>>>> to replace my phone!! >>>>> >>>>> Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't >>>>> support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet? >>>>> >>>> >>>> We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and >>>> testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this point. >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Gareth >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >
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