Hi Lukasz, " With the switch to snaps we also made a decision to switch our target architecture from armhf to arm64"
That's interesting. I don't know much at all about the different arm variants. I have been reading a little about it since your post. I wonder if you could comment on why the move to arm64 is beneficial? I get that arm64 is technically better than the 32bit version but are there other benefits? For anyone else interested these are articles I found useful: https://arc.applause.com/cards/arm-64-bit-processors-future-mobile/ http://www.androidauthority.com/arms-64-bit-architecture-is-good-for-developers-407346/ All the best, Padraic On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Lukasz Zemczak < lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hey! > > With the switch to snaps we also made a decision to switch our target > architecture from armhf to arm64, which is another big complication > for some of our existing phones on the market. For now we are focusing > all our touch efforts on the M10 platform family. > > Cheers, > > > On 10 January 2017 at 08:08, Fabio Colella <fcol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > you can find the requirements here: > > https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/wiki/Distributions > > > > Cheers, > > Fabio > > > > On 10 January 2017 at 05:14, Kirk Turner <gamel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for responding. My phone has only just arrived back in China so I > >> still have a day or so before I find out what is happening! > >> > >> I was really enjoying my phone before it died. But if it isn't going to > be > >> compatible with snaps then I'm sorely tempted to find something that > will be > >> so I can tinker with UT in the future. > >> > >> I guess my question now is what is the base requirements that are needed > >> for snaps? Searching through the snaps requirements I can't find this > >> anywhere (and perhaps I need to ask on the snapcraft mailing list > instead - > >> although there was a question back in December basically asking that > with no > >> reply). However for example Docker lists it's minimum as kernel version > as > >> 3.10. > >> > >> The Meizu Pro 5 has a kernel version of 3.10. BQ Aquaris E5 is 3.4, > while > >> the M10 source is up to 3.18 (as is the LG V20 for example for a newly > >> released phone). The interesting thing is something like the Moto G4 is > >> rolling out Nougat - but it hasn't updated the kernel version (it is > still > >> on 3.10) - so that potentially answers my question about whether the > FlymeOS > >> update coming this year would result in the potential to support snaps. > >> > >> On 10 January 2017 at 01:48, Seth Ciango <seth.cia...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> "Contributions aren't just limited to code. One of the things we've > >>> always said from the beginning of Ubuntu is that all contributions are > >>> valuable. It's not just the code contributions. The translations and > >>> documentation and advocacy and events and asking and answering > questions are > >>> all valued just as much as code contributions." --Jane Silber > >>> > >>> Unfortunately for Kirk, getting a straight answer out of Canonical > seems > >>> impossible right now. I think he and many other people would be > content with > >>> an honest, "I don't know. We're not certain right now." I hope the > >>> communication improves soon. I understand that some people may not be > >>> allowed to answer certain questions at the moment. > >>> > >>> However, Kirk bought a $300+ phone and is wondering if he should keep > it > >>> or get a refund. So his inquiry is perhaps a little more time > sensitive for > >>> him, and I'm surprised that no one has responded. > >>> > >>> Well, Kirk, I have not seen anybody confirm that the Meizu Pro 5 will > >>> receive any meaningful updates in the future. It is a beautiful phone, > but > >>> it may not be fully functional for you and may never become your daily > >>> driver. The bluetooth headset functionality does not work. It is fine > for > >>> listening to music but not for taking calls. If you are ok with that > and > >>> just want to tinker, then you'll be fine. If you want the phone to > replace > >>> your current phone as your daily driver, you may want a refund. > >>> > >>> This bug report will give you more information on the headphone issue: > >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1590844 > >>> > >>> As you can see, the bug and the contributors have been abandoned and > >>> there is no indication that the bug will ever be resolved or even > worked on. > >>> > >>> If the Meizu Pro 5 receives a snap-based distro upgrade, there is a > good > >>> chance that the bug and many other bugs will be resolved by the newer > kernel > >>> and newer software. As of right now, it looks like the programmers' > hands > >>> are tied, and they can not fix such a critical bug. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Kirk Turner <gamel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I'm certainly interested to know what that state will be with the > Meizu > >>>> Pro 5... as I'm in the interesting position that I might get to > choose in > >>>> the next few days whether I get a replacement Pro 5 or a refund for > mine > >>>> which died a month after I bought it. I got a Flyme OS one and it was > going > >>>> to be my Christmas holiday project converting it to Ubuntu... but it > died > >>>> before I got the opportunity and so the Christmas project became > tracking > >>>> the postage back to China. > >>>> > >>>> I know there is talk about upgrading Flyme OS to be Nougat based this > >>>> year - but would that necessarily see kernel upgrades (such that the > phone > >>>> will be able to run snaps)? > >>>> > >>>> I guess the related question is from others that have the Pro 5 if I > was > >>>> just very unlucky or others have had hardware issues? Everything I've > read > >>>> suggested they a solidly built phone. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Kirk > >>>> > >>>> On 6 January 2017 at 01:26, Seth Ciango <seth.cia...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Pat, > >>>>> > >>>>> Could you clarify something that others keep bringing up. Are the > >>>>> current BQ and Meizu devices going to be left to wither on the vine > when a > >>>>> Xenial image is released or will users be able to flash and wipe > their > >>>>> phones with a new Xenial image? > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there a current phone on the market that is the target for future > >>>>> Xenial development? > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there a current phone on the market that runs a partially > >>>>> functioning Xenial image? > >>>>> > >>>>> You've probably answered these questions already, but there still > seems > >>>>> to be some confusion since it sounds like you are saying that ALL > current > >>>>> Ubuntu phones are End-of-Life and that no new phones currently exist. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Seth > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Pat McGowan > >>>>> <pat.mcgo...@canonical.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, <gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use > >>>>>>>> Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks all for your patience > >>>>>>>> Pat > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the > >>>>>>> current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone > happy. If we > >>>>>>> understand what is going on then nobody begins to worry about the > silence. > >>>>>>> Looking forward to every bit of it except having to find the money > to > >>>>>>> replace my phone!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't > >>>>>>> support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and > >>>>>> testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this > point. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Pat > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> Gareth > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > -- > Ćukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak > Foundations Team > lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com > www.canonical.com > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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