On 09/02/2013 05:12 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to register that while my self and Laney have not seen eye
tio eye, his attempt of building the Beta 1's for our community teams
has been a complete and utter disaster.
<rant>
The release team are trying to pick up the pieces and manually spin
ISO's. The cut off date is Thursday, we are now on Tuesday with NO
stable ISO. For heavens sake, out of all the community who wanted a
beta 1... lubuntu was the only one there and told it would be re-spun.
This is a disgraceful way to treat testers. Yes, those people who
actually check systems work.
I can be a royal PITA for shouting up what testers let me know, but
not having a beta 1 - with no idea when it will arrive and the final;
insult of the person "Laney" to vanish from the discussion explains
one simple thing... He's not up to the job of being pro-active for
issues that occur. Instead the -release team gathered together to do
what they could.
Laney, in charge?!!! Where was he?
</end rant>
To quote the original mail [1]:
"Also let us know when you would like automatic image builds stopped,
otherwise the assumption is Monday evening UK time."
The window from Thursday to today was meant to stabilize ISOs after the
freeze. I see no evidence on this list that you wanted Beta ISOs any
sooner than the rest of the flavors.
Release candidates for Betas are usually available sometime on Tuesday
of release week as are the alphas. The main difference with beta is
there are a few days to stabilize ISOs without a lot of churn in the
archive. AFAIK, this has not changed in years.
Laney stopped the dailies and spun up ISOs as he said he would, warned
that he wouldn't be around later, and said that people can respin if
needed. [2]
Chastising someone for stepping away when it's late evening for them [2]
(close to 8PM in this case when the interaction occured, though, really,
it's not ok at any time). There are polite ways to address
disagreements and this certainly isn't one of them.
To quote the CoC [3]:
*
Be respectful
Disagreement is no excuse for poor manners. We work together to
resolve conflict, assume good intentions and do our best to act in
an empathic fashion. We don't allow frustration to turn into a
personal attack. A community where people feel uncomfortable or
threatened is not a productive one.
I think that a public apology is in order here.
Thanks,
Micah Gersten
Ubuntu Core Dev and Ubuntu Membership Board member
[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-August/002499.html
[2] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/02/%23ubuntu-release.html#t17:00
and continues of and on until about 19:00
[3] http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
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