If you wish to be pedantic, read through the "rules" of handing over. Whilst everyone (even me) is entitled to a "life", mile stone releases are of such significance that if the original OP has time constraints, there should be, as per the CoC a seamless hand over of responsibilities.
I do not, therefore think that any apology is needed from all the *buntu teams who have had no leadership for failed builds etc. Only now am I sending out an email to let their testers know that the ISO's are there. To further this, it has been suggested that the beta 1 *may* be delayed until Friday. Regards, Phill. On 2 September 2013 23:38, Micah Gersten <[email protected]> wrote: > On 09/02/2013 05:12 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to register that while my self and Laney have not seen eye tio > eye, his attempt of building the Beta 1's for our community teams has been > a complete and utter disaster. > <rant> > The release team are trying to pick up the pieces and manually spin > ISO's. The cut off date is Thursday, we are now on Tuesday with NO stable > ISO. For heavens sake, out of all the community who wanted a beta 1... > lubuntu was the only one there and told it would be re-spun. > > This is a disgraceful way to treat testers. Yes, those people who > actually check systems work. > > I can be a royal PITA for shouting up what testers let me know, but not > having a beta 1 - with no idea when it will arrive and the final; insult > of the person "Laney" to vanish from the discussion explains one simple > thing... He's not up to the job of being pro-active for issues that occur. > Instead the -release team gathered together to do what they could. > > Laney, in charge?!!! Where was he? > > </end rant> > > > To quote the original mail [1]: > "Also let us know when you would like automatic image builds stopped, > otherwise the assumption is Monday evening UK time." > > The window from Thursday to today was meant to stabilize ISOs after the > freeze. I see no evidence on this list that you wanted Beta ISOs any > sooner than the rest of the flavors. > > Release candidates for Betas are usually available sometime on Tuesday of > release week as are the alphas. The main difference with beta is there are > a few days to stabilize ISOs without a lot of churn in the archive. > AFAIK, this has not changed in years. > > Laney stopped the dailies and spun up ISOs as he said he would, warned > that he wouldn't be around later, and said that people can respin if > needed. [2] > > Chastising someone for stepping away when it's late evening for them [2] > (close to 8PM in this case when the interaction occured, though, really, > it's not ok at any time). There are polite ways to address disagreements > and this certainly isn't one of them. > > To quote the CoC [3]: > > - Be respectful > > Disagreement is no excuse for poor manners. We work together to > resolve conflict, assume good intentions and do our best to act in an > empathic fashion. We don't allow frustration to turn into a personal > attack. A community where people feel uncomfortable or threatened is not a > productive one. > > > I think that a public apology is in order here. > > Thanks, > Micah Gersten > Ubuntu Core Dev and Ubuntu Membership Board member > > [1] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-August/002499.html > [2] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/02/%23ubuntu-release.html#t17:00and > continues of and on until about 19:00 > [3] http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct > > -- > Ubuntu-release mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release> >
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