On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Serge Hallyn wrote: > Quoting cdmiller ([email protected]): > > On 12/10/2013 10:13 AM, Serge Hallyn wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Years ago it was decided that vm-builder would be deprecated in favor > > > of alternatives (cloud images, live-build, and some others). This was > > > dicussed at at least two separate physical UDSes. However, it was > > > never actually dropped from the archive. As a result people kept > > > using it despite it being considered deprecated and no longer > > > maintained. This is resulting in people losing data and time, i.e. > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/1090223 > > > > > > I intend to open a bug to ask that it be removed from the archive > > > for trusty. If anyone objects, please reply here. > > > > > > thanks, > > > -serge > > > > > > > Could you please provide any more alternatives to explore alongside the > > cloud images and live-build mentioned for us behind the times vmbuilder > > users. Another I can think of immediately is cobbler, anything else to > > consider? > > At UDS Copenhagen, oz was mentioned as a promising alternative which > wraps the Ubuntu installer. See > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-vmbuilder > and > http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21093/servercloud-r-vmbuilder/ > > I've personally not used it, and doesn't even seem to be packaged. IIRC > Scott was the one who had mentioned it. Scott have you used oz at all?
oz is at https://github.com/clalancette/oz/wiki I've not used it personally. I really like the way that it is designed, and there is even support for driving oz installs through openstack at http://imgfac.org/ Generally, I don't think people should build images of operating systems. We do that for them. RH and fedora do that for them too. I view ubuntu image build similar to how I view building eglibc, python, or the linux kernel. You can do it if you want to, but unless you're interested in just learning or *really* know what you're doing, I think you're probably wasting your time. Don't flame me. I agree there are people who have perfectly valid reasons for doing each of the things listed above. But I think thats significantly fewer people than those who do them. -- ubuntu-server mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
