"Upstream is gone", "cronie exists in debian experimental, but apparently 
abandoned" - that's unfortunate but thanks for alerting me to that.  A lot of 
history there which I wasn't aware of, sounds like it may be a while before any 
change.


Again, thanks to all of you, I always get a lot of good information when I post 
here and I appreciate it.

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From: Michael Hudson-Doyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 6:29:50 AM
To: Andreas Hasenack <[email protected]>
Cc: Leroy Tennison <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Updated cron?



On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 08:55, Andreas Hasenack 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 4:41 PM Leroy Tennison 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks for your reply, I wasn't aware that bug requests had already been 
submitted.  The Ubuntu bug already has a fair amount of heat but the priority 
is low, any way of getting that increased?  It seems that the software source 
has been around for a while, is a newer variant of what Ubuntu already uses and 
has been used by other distributions for some time.  I would think that would 
mean it's pretty safe to implement.


To answer your question - OpenSUSE 13.2 (which is really old at this point).  
"man 5 crontab" refers to MAILFROM and indicates the Author is "Paul Vixie 
⟨[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>⟩" with the last line of the file reading 
"cronie   2012-11-22  CRONTAB(5)".  Looks like it was introduced at that 
version because 13.1 has the 2010 version.

vixie-cron is what everybody is/was using for quite some time, and all distros 
patched it heavily. Upstream is gone, so it's effectively abandoned. Suse was 
using it as well, but migrated to cronie. Found this page about that migration: 
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Cron_replace

cronie exists in debian experimental, but apparently abandoned 
(https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/cronie). It doesn't exist in Ubuntu. Upstream 
is Fedora, at https://github.com/cronie-crond/cronie

FWIW there are plans to move to cronie in Debian in bullseye: 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/07/msg00100.html

Cheers,
mwh

I also found some documentation showing how to use systemd timers as a 
replacement. It's not a direct replacement, though:
- doesn't parse crontabs, has its own mechanism
- doesn't send out email by default, one needs to use Onfailure and point it at 
a script that will send out the email

We could check the patch that implemented MAILFROM and adopt it. I'm not sure 
if suse used the same one attached to the bug I mentioned before.
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