On January 29, 2008 04:51:25 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > Haig Dedeyan wrote: > >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio > > > > Not user friendly enough for the newbies. > > > > From the main ubuntu studio site, I click on support, then click on the > > link to ubuntu forums and then am presented with 37 forum links ( > > http://ubuntuforums.org/ ) to which there is no mention of ubuntu > > studio. Right here, most newbies will quit. > > As most of the problems we get really are general Ubuntu questions (I > can't tell you how many times we get questions about "How do I install > my video drivers") the forums are fine and will remain our official forum. > > Because not every Ubuntu Studio users question will be appropriate for > it we link strait to the main forum. For specific production questions > the "Multimedia Production" > (http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=254) section is there. > > I must also note, that Ubuntu Studio was never intended for linux > "newbies". Our own forum would be littered with the same redundant > questions as 1000 other forums. Since we do realize "new to linux" > people would try Ubuntu Studio and the current Ubuntu Forums is a wealth > of knowledge, it was decided it's the best place and would cut down on > said redundancy. > > This was also a question of maintenance but staying within the existing > community is the best reason now. > > I can add another link on the site directly to the "Multimedia > Production" section and note that its for specific A/V production > questions. > > >>> From my point of view, perhaps non dev people can volunteer & maintain > >>> this site: > >>> > >>> http://ubuntustudio.org/support > >>> > >>> Suggestions: > >>> > >>> - Forums should be on that site and specific to Ubuntu Studio rather > >>> than having people goto the generic ubuntu forums > >> > >> This would fragment us from the larger Ubuntu community. It was debated > >> in a very wide way on other lists and forums themselves. The forums > >> wanted is there so it was decided. > >> > >> And splitting off goes against your "1 stop shop" idea. :P > > > > Not really. Studio should be concerned about a 1 stop solution shop for > > problems specific to Studio. Using the generic ubuntu forums just > > doesn't cut it imho. > > Ok. :) We disagree and rather keep in with the existing, overall community. > > > Another advantage of having studio specific forums would be to give you > > devs stats on what aspect of Studio people are having most issues with, > > hence, let you prioritize your resources more effectively. > > We already have the sources for this. You're on one of them. :P > > >> What you describe is what the Ubuntu Doc team does. Most people just > >> can't be bothered. If you would like to do documentation thats great. > >> Contact mgunes on IRC or 23meg on the Ubuntu Forums (same guy). He has > >> just come on to help organize our Doc team. > >> > >> The Wiki should have links to everything you need to help out if you > >> want to. Just takes reading. Ask if you need to. > >> > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio > >> > >> -Cory > > > > ok, I'll make my suggestions to the devel mailing list. I don't mind > > doing docs as long as it won't be buried on other sites and not > > available on the studio site. > > > > Haig > > Sure. My next reply will only go there as well. > > The feeling I get from your posts is you don't care about working within > an existing community and would rather have things somewhere else. In > the end, you're welcome to put things where you want. > > If you want to work with us the official place for documentation will > be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio and I've given you the name of > our Doc guy. Or hit _MMA_, luisbg or jussi01 up on IRC. > > -Cory
A forum called something like "Non Studio Related Issues" could be the answer along with a sticky in there telling people to goto the ubuntu forums would solve this. In any case, I doubt that I would change anyone's mind, so I'll send off my docs to the guys you mentioned and they'll post it where you devs decide to post it. I still think leaving your support section as is, is a big mistake though and we'll agree to disagree & just leave it at that. PS: I do care about working with the community and is as open minded as they come. I just think that studio users would be better served if they had their own place to go without any pollution from non studio users. Haig -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
