On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Jussi Schultink <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Luis de Bethencourt <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Cory K. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 10/19/2009 07:48 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: >>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Cory K.<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I /thought/ I expressed my disapproval w/Ubuntu switching to Empathy >>>>> over Pidgin early in the cycle but I mighta just ranted in IRC. :P >>>>> >>>>> In any case, the more I thought about asking Luke to switch it in our >>>>> seeds I thought about whether it really makes sense for Studio? A distro >>>>> that is *not* a desktop distro. >>>>> >>>>> So I propose we support/ship no client by default. Let the user apt-get >>>>> whatever they like. >>>>> >>>>> Please chime in on this so we can act quickly. (as I'm sure we're >>>>> totally up against a freeze or something) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Cory K. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> IF there's still time, I'd support shipping Karmic without a >>>> messenger. The only downside is that we conduct much of the Ubuntu >>>> Studio work on IRC and shipping without any IRC client might send a >>>> slight anti-participatory signal to users (just a slight one). >>> >>> As Studio is and has been from it's inception meant to be used on >>> purpose-built, stand-alone systems I just don't feel it fits default. >>> >>>> I do >>>> feel though that if we do ship a messenger, there's no reason to stray >>>> from the default Ubuntu client (empathy in this case). >>>> >>> >>> We stray *heavily* from Ubuntu anymore. Generally, I don't think that >>> should be used as an excuse. I also very strongly feel that Empathy is a >>> step down from Pidgin feature-wise. >>> >>> So I say we axe a messenger for now. See if there's a backlash of any >>> significance and look at this question again in Lucid in needed. >>> >>> >>> -Cory K. >> >> >> I agree with Cory, Empathy is not mature enough compared to Pidgin. >> Even further, if we are deciding which IM app to ship by default, it >> really does make sense to start wondering why shippin an IM client at >> all. Studio setups dont need an IM, even worse... the pop >> notifications and audio signals (they are turned on by default) break >> the artists concentration. >> >> Luis > > To me this is rather a no brainer. We dont ship a networkmanager > installed by default, why would we ship things that rely on it?Studio > isnt meant to be an "internet" distro, its meant for creating things. > Put it on the dvd, but not installed. simple IMHO. > > Jussi
I forgot about networkmanager. doh! having that in mind.. it is a no-brainer indeed. Luis -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
