On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 06:25:11 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
any desktop application that requires pulse will not hang or fail

Hi Len,

what app does hang or fail, if the pulseaudio package is removed or
replaced by a dummy package? I'm not aware of any app and I don't see a
reason to have pulseaudio installed, if a user doesn't want to use it.

IIUC the OP doesn't use pulseaudio at all. On my Linux installs I never
experienced an issue with pulseaudio removed or replaced by a dummy
package. I never used pulseaudio.

The OP was guessing that pulse caused problems, not sure. So the best thing to do is check first before doing surgery. A few commandline checks will confirm if PA is really the problem or something else.

Desktop applications that use audio will hang or just stop and wait for audio if the device is blocked by jack unless an alternate route is set up. If the user understands this, it is not a problem, most don't. Not that many years ago, linux was a one audio use at a time and users understood that, but most expect audio to interleave like other OS do any more.

I am well aware that you do not use pulse and will look for any oportunity to suggest others remove it too. You are welcome to support all those who choose to remove pulse. :) However, most of us barely have time to support things as they are without also supporting Fankenstien setups.

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Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net


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