Just want to mention a couple of things. The way this communication was handled here has led to that Jimmy left our team, which is a bad thing (Jimmy, me and Len are the oldest active members of this community, currently).
Jimmy takes an initiative, but instead of being encouraged he is stopped by something clearly unimportant in this particular situation. Using Google Hangouts for live communication would in no way mean Ubuntu Studio is promoting Google - just that a few people would be using a very simple solution for live communication. If Set feels other tools would be better, and simple enough to set up, he can always work out the solution and present it as an alternative, once he has done so. Our work is to promote Ubuntu Studio, which in itself is not 100% free software, so having zero tolerance to non-free software in combination with Ubuntu Studio is hypocrisy. It is not up to us who uses free software, and we couldn't provide a 100% free software solution anyway already because of the kernel. If someone wants to use a completely free solution Ubuntu Studio is not the right choice - neither for the user or the developer. It's just an impossibility. That said, we do promote free software. And we do that through Ubuntu Studio, which is where the focus should be. Using non free services in order to reach as many people as possible is unfortunate, but it is also the best way to do that in this moment. Not using those services will just add barriers where there already are too many barriers, in order for people to discover the free software world. We are not crusading against Google, Facebook, or any other such services. We are not *against* non-free software, in fact. But, we are *for* free software. It's a big difference. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel