You make this sound like I'm upset that you did not choose Gnome3. I have no idea what process you guys followed to choose the default DE, so I have nothing to say about that. Has this process been documented BTW? Just curious. I have no idea what are these "alternate DEs" you mentioned, I'll go read about it.
I replied because I see Len has a bad image about GNOME's team, which is false. Do you agree with what he said below? - The attitude seems to be away from the user having things the way they like and more to the we provide a finished product that "we know is best for you". - gnome tends to tell you "this is whats good for you eat it." - I am not sure what happened to "the user is right" in gnome's mind, but it sure gone. On 16 May 2018 at 16:40, <[email protected]> wrote: > Alexandru, > > Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You can voice that opinion, but you > cannot force that opinion on others. > > That said, everyone has a desktop environment that works best for them. > The beauty about Linux is that you never have to stick to what is > offered. You can install a second DE (I have three!) if you wish. It's > up to the user. > > > You are discrediting yourself by repeating ad nauseam that Gnome3 is > > good only for browser users. Please stop. > > This borderlines on a personal attack, which is why I stepped-in. Len > has his opinion, you have yours. Len has an extremely critical eye > which is why we went with his recommendation for Plasma to be our first > alternate DE. Notice I said "first" alternate DE, and there's a reason > for that. We are looking at adding DEs in the future. Ubuntu Studio is > not bound by a single DE unlike the other flavors of Ubuntu. Just > because your favorite DE wasn't chosen this time doesn't mean it will > not be chosen in the future. > > At this point, you're not going to convince Len that he's wrong, and > insisting he or anybody else change their opinion only makes your case > worse. If this conversation continues in this direction, we may have to > moderate. > > > Looking forward to a constructive discussion about the best DE for > > content creators. You guys could make a public list of DE > > requirements for Ubuntu Studio and how the DEs you considered match > > them and what issues each has. I'm sure the teams working on each of > > those DEs will be happy to provide feedback. > > Sadly, that all comes down to subjective opinion. I will say this: > until the GNOME 3 memory leak bug is fixed, I would not use it for live > audio production or video editing. Don't get me wrong, I like GNOME 3 > and understand its workflow, but I simply cannot use or recommend it at > this time. If this changes, it may be considered for an alternate DE > for Ubuntu Studio in the future. However, as I've stated before, there > is nothing stopping anybody from adding to their existing install if > they wish. In fact, Ubuntu Studio was originally created as a "add-on" > to an existing Ubuntu installation. This is still true with the various > metapackages available with ubuntustudio-installer. > > Most importantly, remember: none of us are paid to work on this > project. We are all volunteers, and a very small number at that. > Canonical gives us no money but simply offers server resources. That's > it. With that, keep in mind that you get this operating system for > free, and that we are under no obligation to change it for a single > user's (albiet loud) wishes. We try to make accommodations, but it > cannot come at the expense of our time at our regular jobs and with our > families, which is why we have to draw boundries to keep it from > interfering with those aspects of our lives. > > That said, we appreciate the input and feedback. Your opinion has been > noted (and noteworthy), but as I stated before, things are getting into > the gray areas of personal attack, which means we should probably stop > this discussion. > > > Thanks, > Erich > > -- > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel >
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