/Hi, Gord.

I think 'yet another xxx' is in the very deep nature of FOSS (Free or, at 
least, Open Source Software), GPLed, etx.
It's something good and natural. It's the other side of the one-app-only 
proprietary monopolic scheme.

Maybe it isn't perfect, but is better. And you just live with it, in a similar 
way you live with people saying stupidities just for the sake of free speech 
(and is not for chance that 'free, as in freedom' appears again)./

Rivera,  that's cool.  Without FOSS there would be no free as in beer software. 
 Its perplexing to the ambitious because free as in beer just does not make 
sense,  as many of us have not found the bar that offers free beer.  Please 
forward the google map and we will meet up.

There are definite camps or schools of thought within software.  Years ago,  
when I was using an Atari,  with a 300 baud modem,  it was just wonderful to 
see a new app and figure out what it does,  after breathlessly waiting for a 
'huge' 250kb download for an hour or more.  Obviously the state of affairs have 
changed and I no longer use 360kb 5.25 floppies and double notch them to make 
720k's out of them.

Without FOSS I doubt I would have walked through installing Redhat on a Tandy 
IBM 'clone' that had my first internal disc drive and hard drive.  Darned if I 
could get the monitor to work, and if it wasn't for the community on FidoNet, 
Usenet, RelayNet, and other BBS based forerunners of what we use today. It 
could take weeks to get a fussy monitor to work, even if 'supported',  let 
alone other peripherals that 'just work' today in Linux.

Your right no one is calling the shots as to what a programmer decides he or 
she wants to create.  That's fine in the world where we go out to the garage 
and play with the hot rod.  But hasn't Linux grown beyond that just a little?  
There are a few ambitious Linux creators that have done things and have faced a 
backlash of sorts from the Richard Stallman's of the world,  who's website is 
starting to read a bit like a unibomber manifesto.  What has the guy been up to 
for 30 years?  Adding to the list of coulda,  woulda,  shoulda,  is one thing I 
suppose.   I try not to sound that that is it comes off as unappreciative.

Stallman went after Ubuntu recently because certain things in the lens of Unity 
(I believe it was) were traceable at Canonical's servers.  He refuses to see 
that there could be a price to pay for allowing some level of pay as you go,  
or pay as you will commercial type development to happen.  I may be too simple 
in saying that all you have to do is change the desktop or move to Ubuntustudio 
without Unity and problem solved.

It comes down to a chicken or the egg argument in situations like Stallman  vrs 
Canonical.  Without Canonical more than one distribution would not be as far 
ahead in terms of use as it is now.  Redhat got involved with Novell sometime 
back,  and there was something else involved with SUSE.  Clearly improvements 
where and probably still are being made from entities with a commercial agenda, 
 one's usually with an community version of their software that isn't quite 
FOSS.

I am not here to debate or belittle the merits of FOSS or commercially raised 
contributions.  I admit like many others my mission is more about the result of 
the software,  hardware and OS than it might have been back in the learning 
curve of probably 20 years,  but please don't let me admit to that number.  It 
ages me so.

I believe there is room for distributions to focus more sharply on use whether 
they be FOSS or whether they have a shot in the arm from the commercial sector. 
  I think the world will stand up and notice a set of tools that is fairly 
quick to adopt,  truly helps people along with their creative goals (or have 
fun trying),  and is less geeky than it previously was.

My comment was more about the state of affairs.  There are some really good 
applications to pick from and the landscape shifts.  Ardour I brought up 
because I don't think it is truly open source,  though the front of their 
website says it is.  In Stallman terms, its not truly free,  as they have this 
trap that amounts to a tin cup for tips.  Or at least this is where the terms 
of the free beer get a bit fuzzy.  I wonder if anyone can freely distribute it, 
 if they choose it for their distro, that's all.

Your right you put up with this stuff,  and if you have it contribute a buck to 
Paul Davis,  because he and the rest of the crew have been doing a great job 
for a number of years.  This does exist somewhat outside of FOSS by asking for 
donations,  something not exclusive to their project.  These are not the idiots 
you put up with in order to have free speech,   these are the people you listen 
to because you have free speech,  and optionally add your opinion.

There are some who are adding to the unibomber type agenda and who are very 
unappreciative.  Hopefully the balance of Linux users and even Mac and Windows 
users,  bless them,  will be a little better than that on the whole.  Stallman 
has some interesting things to say on the whole, but unfortunately a visit to 
his website is a bit scary if you consider some of the people you have to put 
up with can also go there and take his intent and meaning a different way.

I certainly do not wish to join the chorus of people who say this and that 
without appreciation for the hard work put into any project,  but I also 
reserve the free speech to say I don't need another calculator or six ways to 
get to my steam account.


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