El dt 03 de 05 de 2011 a les 10:43 +0100, en/na Matthew East va escriure: > Hi David, > > On 3 May 2011 10:18, David Planella <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please do not forget about translations. The server guide is a huge > > document and there are translation teams which have done an incredible > > effort to translate it. > > > > Once the separate branch has been set up, may I ask someone with write > > permissions to commit these [1] PO files to it? I've just exported them > > from Launchpad to make it easier. > > We have already included the translations from the natty ubuntu-docs > branch in the new serverguide branch. We will update these when the > natty translations are updated. >
Thanks! > > And once more, now that the server guide will only be available online > > and on PDF, I'd like to bring up the subject of enabling translations on > > help.ubuntu.com, as otherwise only the English version will be > > available. Translators and LoCos keep asking for this, and I'll be more > > than happy to help in anything I can in that regard. > > Each time we discuss this it seems to stall. I've repeatedly set out > my reasons why I think that local team websites should be encouraged > to provide localised help rather than help.ubuntu.com, and I've > repeatedly said that I'm interested in hearing what translators and > local team leaders think about it - but the discussion never seems to > get further than that. See for example: > Translators: we've talked about it at UDS and on the list in the past. May I ask those of you who'd like to see a localized help.ubuntu.com instead of having localized team websites to host the localized content state your reasons on this thread? This will be very useful in bringing the discussion forward. > The last time we discussed it, I noted that there was a specification > in the ubuntu-website project to develop an auto-redirection solution > for www.ubuntu.com which offers users a link to the local team website > in their language. If that solution were implemented for > www.ubuntu.com, I think it would be sensible to use it for > help.ubuntu.com too. > I'm not very happy with a redirection vs. a full localization solution. As far as I know, that redirection project is now stalled. > Various references to previous discussions. > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-May/014775.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-May/014782.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-September/015159.html > > Would you be willing to prepare a specification setting out the pros > and cons of the idea and starting a(nother) discussion about it? If > the solution is to implement some technology on help.ubuntu.com that > points users to a local website, would someone be interested in > working on this? > My idea was to simply enable localized content on the current site (I guess it's an apache server just serving html pages?). I'll be happy to prepare a spec on this or on a more sophisticated approach, but I want to set up expectations: due to changes in the work I'm going to do this cycle (more on this on a separate thread), while I'd be able to help, I won't probably be able to drive the full spec implementation unless someone steps up to help. Also, if I prepare a specification and a UDS session, I'd like to know if at least someone from the docs team would be able to participate in the session. > > Finally, another thought: would it not make sense to have an additional, > > separate serverguide source package, so that the documentation can also > > be read offline in an installed system?. Apologies if that's been > > discussed already, as I haven't followed all the previous threads on the > > server guide. > > This was discussed here: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-August/015117.html > > and on the server list: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-August/004551.html > > The decision was to remove the package. > Thanks for the references! Cheers, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella
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