> As a first step, I think we should focus on *why* language support > packages may be unsolicitedly uninstalled. We need to figure out under > which circumstances it can happen, and submit a bug report which > includes a reproducible use case. We don't have such a bug report yet, > have we?
Now this is a tricky one. What I did was use the automatic update function from the Software Center that Ubuntu triggers itself once a day. Of course I have no idea now which version it was and I dont even remember the day it happened. I also can't cause a package to be missing on the update server if that was indeed the core issue. >>>> The explanation is that that's how the language pack system is >>>> designed currently. Either you have English - all English - >>>> installed or not. But some users are (for to me unknown reasons) >>>> very picky about installing only what they need. >> >> I can get that - I was kind of bemused that I had to install all >> Englishes, because my language doesn't have the coverage yet to be >> included in the installer. One English would have done the job just as >> nicely - I only needed it so I could pick my own language later, and >> after the switch, to fill the gaps in incomplete translations, all I >> really need is the basic "en" that's used as a basis for translation. > > Was there anything you couldn't do with your computer because you > installed multiple English variants? I suppose not. Well, one of the arguments against making sure all language packs are upgraded was that English speakers could get annoyed because there's so many English language packs. > Personally I don't see the problem here. When you use a Linux distro - > any distro - you install a lot of things you don't need, but which at > the same time don't hurt. Neither do I really, but it seems that English speaker complaining about this make a fix for all other languages "controversial" >> As explained above, I think the design for English is seriously broken, >> and it's not really nice for English-speakers either - in the initial >> install, they too get forced to install all Englishes, even if the >> updater then drops this later. > > You mix two things here. Yes, there is only one set of language support > packages per language, and some of the sets (English, Spanish, > Portugese...) include translations and other stuff for more than one > variant. Not a problem IMO. Then we think that language support packages > are silently uninstalled sometimes. As already said above, I suggest > that we focus on the latter. Agreed. I just wanted to make sure that we aren't missing any design issues here that might impact on the solution of our problem. -- ubuntu-translators mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
