Hi, I'd like to support OSGeo Live with my Java and Ubuntu knowledge to help getting Java packages apt-get installable. I don't have much time, but an hour a day I could maybe spend on this. Please let me know if this helps and on which packages you like me to start working on.
Mit freundlichen Gruessen/Best regards Andreas Paukner-Ruzicka ---------------------------------------- Mobile: 0049-170-9005379 eMail : [email protected] ---------------------------------------- On 11/06/13 23:12, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Alex, > I defer to your deeper experience with packaging, and agree that your > analysis and suggestions make sense. > > On 12/06/13 07:03, Alex Mandel wrote: >> Cameron, >> >> Thats a tricky dependency issue, we are likely to opt to use 12.04 >> instead of 13.04 because Ubuntugis is not up to date. But many people >> who try OSGeo-Live might then actually move to trying on 13.04. So in >> my mind making sure existing already packaged projects are up to date >> takes precedence over things that have never been deb packaged and >> might be hard to create deb packages for. Even prioritizing Java >> stuff first I have no expectations that even a fraction will be done >> in time for OSGeo Live 7. However focusing on Debian/Ubuntugis >> current packages I expect all of those will be ready in time for >> either 12.04 or 13.04. >> >> >> So I disagree with you and agree with Alan on this plan. Having >> working QGIS, GRASS, Postgis etc that all work together correctly is >> more important to me than Java projects being apt-get installable. >> >> Thanks, >> Alex >> >> On 06/11/2013 01:52 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: >>> Alan, >>> Re Java packaging, our biggest hurdle is there seems to be very few >>> people with java packaging experience, which is why it would be very >>> valuable to have someone research what is required, and set out a >>> roadmap for others to follow. >>> >>> If we were to focus on java packaging for OSGeo-Live 7.0 (to be >>> released >>> at foss4g 2013), then I'd suggest that java packaging should be >>> focussed >>> on first, in order to give java projects time to help out. (I'm >>> expecting there to be quite a bit of research and discussion with >>> projects required). This would likely be at the expense of other >>> packaging efforts. >>> >>> So while I'd love to see the java packaging issues worked out as the >>> primary goal, if we are to follow up with your schedule (which is a >>> good >>> plan), I expect that java packaging will need to wait for a few more >>> releases. (Maybe a focus for a future GSoC project) >>> >>> On 12/06/13 03:41, Alex Mandel wrote: >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> I agree that we should 1. make sure Debian (and therefore Ubuntu) are >>>> up to date on existing packages, 2. create instructions, workflows and >>>> tools to make it easier to maintain (and bring in new maintainers, 3. >>>> then move on to other ideas. >>>> >>>> For those who haven't seen the plan >>>> https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2013/jlarouche/16001 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> On 06/11/2013 05:40 AM, Alan Boudreault wrote: >>>>> Hi Cameron, >>>>> >>>>> I'm really for the java packaging effort. One of the difficulty I >>>>> see is >>>>> that as its mentor.. I do not have any java packaging experience. >>>>> This >>>>> is something Jérome will have to learn by himself and any >>>>> collaboration >>>>> with other devs will be appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> However, before doing any java packaging stuff, I'd like to follow to >>>>> the GSoC plan. When everything is update and that we have a working >>>>> debian stable repository... we are going to start this effort. >>>>> >>>>> Is it ok with you? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> On 13-06-07 05:45 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: >>>>>> Jerome, Alan, >>>>>> >>>>>> We discussed ideas about Jerome's contribution toward OSGeo-Live >>>>>> in our >>>>>> OSGeo-Live weekly meeting yesterday and we see this summer-of-code >>>>>> project as an excellent opportunity to tackle one of the difficult >>>>>> packaging issues we have had to date. Namely, the packaging of java >>>>>> based applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> Historically, java packaging into ubuntu has been difficult, largely >>>>>> due >>>>>> to osgeo projects being dependant upon Sun Java, and Debian >>>>>> packaging >>>>>> OpenJDK. We the last OSGeo-Live release, we successfully moved all >>>>>> applications on OSGeoLive across to OpenJDK, so we should be in a >>>>>> good >>>>>> position to start packaging these java based applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other part of the problem, is that java projects usually >>>>>> don't have >>>>>> much expertise in debian packaging (because they have not been doing >>>>>> it), and debian packagers have not had much experience with java >>>>>> (again >>>>>> because they have not been working with it). >>>>>> >>>>>> What we really need is someone to work out how to bring these two >>>>>> processes (and communities) together by doing to hard work of >>>>>> working >>>>>> out what is required. Jerome's summer of code project provides an >>>>>> excellent opportunity to make a big difference in this regard. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I'd like to propose: >>>>>> 1. Jerome's primary focus should initially be on working out how to >>>>>> package java applications into debian based systems (such as >>>>>> UbuntuGIS) >>>>>> 2. Start packaging the key java based applications. (I can introduce >>>>>> you >>>>>> to key java developers and projects to ask questions of) >>>>>> 3. I suspect we should start with the Geotools library first, then >>>>>> GeoServer (which is used by a number of other applications), then >>>>>> other >>>>>> java based applications (depending on which projects step up to work >>>>>> with Jerome) >>>>>> >>>>>> Jerome, Alan, >>>>>> How does that sound for an idea? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 06/06/13 02:47, Alex Mandel wrote: >>>>>>> On 06/05/2013 09:22 AM, Alan Boudreault wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As some of you may already know, we got a OSGeo Google Summer >>>>>>>> of Code >>>>>>>> slot for UbuntuGIS. I'd like to introduce Jérome Vileneuve >>>>>>>> Larouche (a >>>>>>>> student at The University of Québec at Chicoutimi) You may already >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> seen his name on the list since he was working part time with >>>>>>>> Mapgears >>>>>>>> during the last year. As the mentor of the project, I'm going >>>>>>>> to work >>>>>>>> with Jérome to update and improve UbuntuGIS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The main goals of the project is to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Train the student to be comfortable with debian/ubuntu >>>>>>>> packaging. >>>>>>>> - Provide the UbuntuGIS-Stable Upgrade (biannual upgrade) >>>>>>>> - Provide packages for Ubuntu Raring. >>>>>>>> - Update UbuntuGIS unstable packages with all latest softwares >>>>>>>> (Collaborate and contribute to DebianGIS) >>>>>>>> - Collaborate with the user on the mailing list to be aware of the >>>>>>>> known >>>>>>>> issues and provide new package and/or fixes >>>>>>>> - Provide upstream patches to various osgeo projects. >>>>>>>> - Create a new repository for debian stable (7.0) with all current >>>>>>>> up-to-date packages >>>>>>>> - Create more documentation for users and new contributors. >>>>>>>> (Howtos, >>>>>>>> tutorial) >>>>>>>> - Collaborate with the OSGeo LiveDVD project (more packaging for >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> setup?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We would be happy to hear comments/suggestions from the >>>>>>>> community to >>>>>>>> improve UbuntGIS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>>> Alan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Awesome. I look forward to more Howtos to help us train more >>>>>>> people to >>>>>>> become maintainers of packages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a member of UbuntuGIS, and OSGeo Live I'll be happy to help >>>>>>> coordinate between the 2 projects. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> UbuntuGIS mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >>>>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ UbuntuGIS mailing list [email protected] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
