------ Original Message ------ Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] Fwd: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:08:33 -0400 To: Ubuntu From: Randal Hale
I'm one of the guys who was commenting on the confusion. Someone commented that the naming is in keeping with Ubuntu policy. Which probably for the Sys Admin crowd is perfect. We've got a weird blend of Users who want software BUT (and I didn't up until this last thread) understand the reasoning behind the naming. It is confusing. I don't know if something on the PPA explaining it is warranted OR a name change OR something on the package websites.


I'd suggest this: (clearest to me, and does not break the known Debian chain)

"Experimental" (=Debian testing) --> "Current" (=Debian unstable) --> "Legacy" (=Debian stable)

Anyway - Yes - 500 Cheers for Angelos and everyone else involved in keeping this alive.

Randy

On 09/16/2016 08:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:
Hi,

I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS ML.  The
name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with combination
of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for Debian
users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming, anyway
current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.

And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos) for
making ubuntugis project alive! Martin

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Blumentrath, Stefan <stefan.blumentr...@nina.no>
Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00
Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
To: Martin Landa <landa.mar...@gmail.com>, GRASS developers list
<grass-...@lists.osgeo.org>


Hei Martin,

Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?

As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages from a
repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system administrators
(who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand what is
behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them that
"unstable" actually means "current release"...

Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...

Cheers
Stefan

-----Original Message-----
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Of Martin Landa
Sent: 16. september 2016 13:03
To: GRASS users list <grass-u...@lists.osgeo.org>; GRASS developers
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Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy

Hi all,

recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means that
currently is used this workflow:

OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS Unstable -->
UbuntuGIS Stable

What does it means for GRASS?

1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded to
Testing PPA [1]
2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable [2]
3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]

For user who want to help with testing experimental packages: please
use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date
version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older versions).

Martin

[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing
[2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable
[3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

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Martin Landa
http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa
http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa
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