+1 to renaming testing to experimental.

On 09/16/2016 04:23 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
I'm in favor of removing testing and adding "experimental" instead.

This is closer to the actual way we use the ppa.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Randal Hale <
rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote:

from my perspective it should be (which will completely break policy on
several fronts)

Testing/unstable -> Fresh/Stable/Current -> Older Releases.

I don't know how the naming would need to be. I hesitate to suggest
because I'm advocating breaking with a standard on Two different Distros.
I apologize in Advance.


On 09/16/2016 08:57 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:

Hi Martin,

Little clarification for the non-expert lurkers like myself, are you
suggesting that the naming order should be as follows?

    unstable --> testing --> stable

... which would match the Debian policy found here:



On 2016-09-16 8:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:


I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS ML.  The
name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with combination
of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for Debian
users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming, anyway
current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.

And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos) for
making ubuntugis project alive! Martin

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Blumentrath, Stefan <stefan.blumentr...@nina.no>
Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00
Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
To: Martin Landa <landa.mar...@gmail.com>, GRASS developers list

Hei Martin,

Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?

As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages from a
repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system administrators
(who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand what is
behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them that
"unstable" actually means "current release"...

Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...


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Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy

Hi all,

recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means that
currently is used this workflow:

OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS Unstable -->
UbuntuGIS Stable

What does it means for GRASS?

1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded to
Testing PPA [1]
2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable [2]
3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]

For user who want to help with testing experimental packages: please
use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date
version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older versions).


[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing
[2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable
[3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

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