> > Out of curiosity, do you think that there is any value to letting users >> mark revisions which they care about and want to be saved forever? I'd also >> be curious to know how many people would like documents to /always/ be >> autosaved across the desktop. >> > Yes, there's definitely great value in this feature, but that's just my point of view.
Can you show us what to expect in the near future or what is on the >> todo-list so we can avoid giving out redundant ideas?[?] >> > Sorry, you'll have to ask Eliot about that. I'm just a student who isn't > affiliated with Ubuntu One or Canonical in any way. Doh, forgot to add devs somewhere in that sentence.. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Natan Yellin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, HAORANSKY <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry to interrupt and squeeze in here,[?]: >> As of what I think about the issue, just keep most recent revisions is >> fine, and as Elliot state above, sharing folder could work, and it's >> actually better than a group account(it can keep track of which group member >> changed which file). > > Out of curiosity, do you think that there is any value to letting users >>>>> mark revisions which they care about and want to be saved forever? I'd >>>>> also >>>>> be curious to know how many people would like documents to /always/ be >>>>> autosaved across the desktop. >>>>> >>>> >> Can you show us what to expect in the near future or what is on the >> todo-list so we can avoid giving out redundant ideas?[?] >> > Sorry, you'll have to ask Eliot about that. I'm just a student who isn't > affiliated with Ubuntu One or Canonical in any way. > > Regards, > Natan > >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Natan Yellin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Steve Alexander <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yes, implementing a "Human" DCVS isn't easy. Dropbox, Apple's Time >>>>> Machine, and several other projects have all /tried/ to to do so, but as >>>>> far >>>>> as I can tell they haven't succeeded. (It's gotten to the point where >>>>> Dropbox decided that it just wasn't worth keeping file-revisions and now >>>>> deletes revisions more than one month old. I haven't heard anyone >>>>> complain, >>>>> so I doubt that the feature was at all popular.) Both Dropbox and Time >>>>> Machine remember small one-line edits that no one cares about. Its been >>>>> impossible to create a "Human" GUI for viewing revisions because there are >>>>> just too darn many revisions to be viewed. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm sure that Dropbox want to keep their user interfaces simple and >>>> intuitive, and this will be part of why their system works like this. >>>> There's an economic driver for this too, and I think this is very >>>> significant. >>>> >>>> Dropbox wants to sell 50GB of file storage at $10 per month. That's a >>>> flat rate for a bunch of storage. >>>> >>>> They will be banking on most of their customers using only a fraction of >>>> the full amount of available storage, because Dropbox is a cloud-based >>>> service using Amazon S3, and so they will pay for only what users use, not >>>> the full amount they are offering to users. >>>> >>>> There's a problem with this approach if they are also offering to keep >>>> revisions indefinitely, or just remove revisions when the quota gets full. >>>> The problem is, over time, most users will be using the full 50GB. part >>>> for >>>> "live" data and the rest for historical revisions. >>>> >>>> It costs Dropbox about the same amount to store a historical revision as >>>> it costs to store current revision of some files. But the value to the >>>> user >>>> is totally different. So, they will want keep only the most valuable >>>> revisions, and remove the rest. I guess that's why they've come up with >>>> this particular policy of removing older revisions automatically. >>>> >>> Exactly. My point wasn't that it makes economic sense to keep all >>> revisions (it doesn't, as you pointed out) but rather that users don't even >>> /want/ to keep all revisions. However, by contrast, keeping specific >>> revisions (marked by users) is both cheep and useful. >>> >>> You have a good point that it also makes sense to keep recent revisions. >>> People can use those in case they accidentally delete/change something they >>> need. >>> >>> Natan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: >>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntuone-users> >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntuone-users> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >
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