On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:39 PM, HAORANSKY <[email protected]> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, do you think that there is any value to letting users >>> mark revisions which they care about and want to be saved forever? I'd also >>> be curious to know how many people would like documents to /always/ be >>> autosaved across the desktop. >>> >> Yes, there's definitely great value in this feature, but that's just my > point of view. > Ok, thank you. > > > Can you show us what to expect in the near future or what is on the >>> todo-list so we can avoid giving out redundant ideas?[?] >>> >> Sorry, you'll have to ask Eliot about that. I'm just a student who isn't >> affiliated with Ubuntu One or Canonical in any way. > > Doh, forgot to add devs somewhere in that sentence.. > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Natan Yellin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, HAORANSKY <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry to interrupt and squeeze in here,[?]: >>> As of what I think about the issue, just keep most recent revisions is >>> fine, and as Elliot state above, sharing folder could work, and it's >>> actually better than a group account(it can keep track of which group member >>> changed which file). >> >> Out of curiosity, do you think that there is any value to letting users >>>>>> mark revisions which they care about and want to be saved forever? I'd >>>>>> also >>>>>> be curious to know how many people would like documents to /always/ be >>>>>> autosaved across the desktop. >>>>>> >>>>> >>> Can you show us what to expect in the near future or what is on the >>> todo-list so we can avoid giving out redundant ideas?[?] >>> >> Sorry, you'll have to ask Eliot about that. I'm just a student who isn't >> affiliated with Ubuntu One or Canonical in any way. >> >> Regards, >> Natan >> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Natan Yellin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Steve Alexander <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, implementing a "Human" DCVS isn't easy. Dropbox, Apple's Time >>>>>> Machine, and several other projects have all /tried/ to to do so, but as >>>>>> far >>>>>> as I can tell they haven't succeeded. (It's gotten to the point where >>>>>> Dropbox decided that it just wasn't worth keeping file-revisions and now >>>>>> deletes revisions more than one month old. I haven't heard anyone >>>>>> complain, >>>>>> so I doubt that the feature was at all popular.) Both Dropbox and Time >>>>>> Machine remember small one-line edits that no one cares about. Its been >>>>>> impossible to create a "Human" GUI for viewing revisions because there >>>>>> are >>>>>> just too darn many revisions to be viewed. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure that Dropbox want to keep their user interfaces simple and >>>>> intuitive, and this will be part of why their system works like this. >>>>> There's an economic driver for this too, and I think this is very >>>>> significant. >>>>> >>>>> Dropbox wants to sell 50GB of file storage at $10 per month. That's a >>>>> flat rate for a bunch of storage. >>>>> >>>>> They will be banking on most of their customers using only a fraction >>>>> of the full amount of available storage, because Dropbox is a cloud-based >>>>> service using Amazon S3, and so they will pay for only what users use, not >>>>> the full amount they are offering to users. >>>>> >>>>> There's a problem with this approach if they are also offering to keep >>>>> revisions indefinitely, or just remove revisions when the quota gets full. >>>>> The problem is, over time, most users will be using the full 50GB. part >>>>> for >>>>> "live" data and the rest for historical revisions. >>>>> >>>>> It costs Dropbox about the same amount to store a historical revision >>>>> as it costs to store current revision of some files. But the value to the >>>>> user is totally different. So, they will want keep only the most valuable >>>>> revisions, and remove the rest. I guess that's why they've come up with >>>>> this particular policy of removing older revisions automatically. >>>>> >>>> Exactly. My point wasn't that it makes economic sense to keep all >>>> revisions (it doesn't, as you pointed out) but rather that users don't even >>>> /want/ to keep all revisions. However, by contrast, keeping specific >>>> revisions (marked by users) is both cheep and useful. >>>> >>>> You have a good point that it also makes sense to keep recent revisions. >>>> People can use those in case they accidentally delete/change something they >>>> need. >>>> >>>> Natan >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntuone-users> >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : >>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntuone-users> >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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