Hi Greg,

I found it. In simple words, i started the kernel with "mem=64M.." but
my redboot version fixed the sdram controller to 32MByte.
My montejade has 64M and not 32M. I used the redboot for IXDPG425, which
anybody say this is montejade and i didn't know that there are different
ram-version from montejade :-(.
This was also the problem with netflash i posted month ago here.
Regards
Siegfried

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Hi Greg,

Exactly. I switched the GPIO8 to HIGH, but this takes no effect. Do you
have any idea, what i can test more? Thank you very much Regards
Siegfried

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Hi Siegfried,

Siegfried Müller wrote:
> After checking the schematics of the board, i saw GPIO8 for reset the
> PCI. It is not used in the arch config startup code. Could that be a 
> problem?

I don't quite follow?
Do you mean that you think that this might be a floating line and
causing spurious resets?

Regards
Greg



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Siegfried 
> Müller
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Januar 2008 07:48
> An: 'uClinux development list'
> Betreff: AW: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 crashes
> 
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
>> Does the problem occur with all flash memory sticks
>> you have tried?
> I tried different sticks, all with the same effect.
> 
>> Can you try a different Montejade board?
> I only have one original montejade board. I also have our own designed

> board, which has the same USB-Host controller. On this board i have
> the same problem. At this time i have no meaning on what side the 
> problem is. (Software, Hardware, Kernel settings)
> 
> The USB-Host controller or the board. For this it would be helpful to
> know, if somebody has a running Montejade with USB.
> 
> Does ANYONE has a running IXP425 with the USB-Host controller
> NECuPD720101?
> 
> Thank and regards
> Siegfried
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg Ungerer
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Januar 2008 06:43
> An: uClinux development list
> Betreff: Re: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 crashes
> 
> 
> Hi Siegfried,
> 
> Siegfried Müller wrote:
>> I have the same problem with snapgear 3.5.
>> Unloading the modules takes no effect.
>>
>> I also tried to simple copy a file from the usb storage to the usb
>> storage. (cp test1 test2) It is the same effect, the system crashes.
>>
>> Greg, any idea?
> 
> Hmm, not really, no.
> 
> Does the problem occur with all flash memory sticks
> you have tried?
> 
> Can you try a different Montejade board?
> 
> Regards
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Siegfried 
>> Müller
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2007 09:28
>> An: 'uClinux development list'
>> Betreff: RE: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 crashes
>>
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> It is snapgear 3.4. Is there a known bug in 3.4 for this problem? I
>> will try to not load the modules for a test. Regards Siegfried
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg Ungerer
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2007 07:00
>> An: uClinux development list
>> Betreff: Re: WG: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 
>> crashes
>>
>>
>> Hi Siegdried,
>>
>> Siegfried Müller wrote:
>>> Is there anyone who can help me?
>> I can't say anything is immediately obvious to me from the dumps. I
>> take it that the problem is no different if none of the IXP eth 
>> modules or ocf is loaded at the time of test?
>>
>> With snapgear dist version is this?
>> If not 3.5 then you could try updating too.
>>
>> Regards
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Siegfried 
>>> Müller
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2007 09:28
>>> An: 'uClinux development list'
>>> Betreff: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 crashes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>
>>> Is there anything you can see in the kernel messages, which can help

>>> me.. Regards Siegfried
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Siegfried 
>>> Müller
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2007 06:24
>>> An: 'uClinux development list'
>>> Betreff: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 crashes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>
>>> I use kernel 2.6.17. It is different where the kernel traps. Here
>>> are
> 
>>> two reports when copying files from the usb-storage to a mounted
>>> nfs:
> 
>>> 1.. try Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address
>>> 572e7ed6 pgd = c0004000 [572e7ed6] *pgd=00000000 Internal error:
>>> Oops:
>>> 0 [#1] Modules linked in: ipsec cryptodev ixp4xx ocf ixp400_eth 
>>> ixp400
>>> CPU: 0
>>> PC is at 0x572e7ed6
>>> LR is at __do_irq+0x4c/0x88
>>> pc : [<572e7ed6>]    lr : [<c00259d8>]    Tainted: P     
>>> sp : c042de98  ip : c042debc  fp : c042deb8
>>> r10: c035aae0  r9 : 00000000  r8 : c042df08
>>> r7 : 00000017  r6 : 00000000  r5 : 00000000  r4 : c0e038e0 r3 : 
>>> a94b602d  r2 : c042df08  r1 : 4804280b  r0 : 00000017
>>> Flags: nzcv  IRQs off  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32  Segment kernel
>>> Control: 39FF  Table: 007E0000  DAC: 00000017
>>> Process ksoftirqd/0 (pid: 2, stack limit = 0xc042c198)
>>> Stack: (0xc042de98 to 0xc042e000)
>>> de80:                                                       c035afe8
>>> 00000017
>>> dea0: c042df08 0000000a c042df08 c042ded4 c042debc c0025c20 c0025998
>>> c035afe8
>>> dec0: 0000001f 00800000 c042df04 c042ded8 c0025cbc c0025bc0 c042dee4

>>> c01b35ec
>>> dee0: ffffffff 0000001f 00800000 0000000a c0360aa0 fffffffc c042df64

>>> c042df08
>>> df00: c00249a4 c0025c7c c2e0bc00 c02d44c0 c02d4390 0000061f c3ec3b60

>>> c2e0bc00
>>> df20: c0374888 0000000a c0360aa0 00000000 fffffffc c042df64 c042df68

>>> c042df50
>>> df40: c01cdfdc c01c8414 60000013 ffffffff c2e0bcc0 c2e0bc00 c042df80

>>> c042df68
>>> df60: c01cdfdc c01c840c 0000000d c0360ad8 c042c000 c042dfa4 c042df84

>>> c003fd10
>>> df80: c01cdf74 20000013 c042c000 c0360aa0 c0040324 00000001 c042dfc0

>>> c042dfa8
>>> dfa0: c00403a0 c003fcc0 00000000 c042c000 c0427f24 c042dff4 c042dfc4

>>> c004df3c
>>> dfc0: c0040330 00000001 ffffffff ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000

>>> 00000000
>>> dfe0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 c042dff8 c003d118 c004de5c 00000080

>>> 00000090
>>> Backtrace:
>>> [<c002598c>] (__do_irq+0x0/0x88) from [<c0025c20>]
>>> (do_level_IRQ+0x6c/0xbc)
>>>  r8 = C042DF08  r7 = 0000000A  r6 = C042DF08  r5 = 00000017  r4 = 
>>> C035AFE8 [<c0025bb4>] (do_level_IRQ+0x0/0xbc) from [<c0025cbc>]
>>> (asm_do_IRQ+0x4c/0x118)
>>>  r6 = 00800000  r5 = 0000001F  r4 = C035AFE8 
>>> [<c0025c70>] (asm_do_IRQ+0x0/0x118) from [<c00249a4>]
>>> (__irq_svc+0x24/0x60)
>>> [<c01c8400>] (__kfree_skb+0x0/0x134) from [<c01cdfdc>]
>>> (net_tx_action+0x74/0x10c)
>>>  r5 = C2E0BC00  r4 = C2E0BCC0 
>>> [<c01cdf68>] (net_tx_action+0x0/0x10c) from [<c003fd10>]
>>> (__do_softirq2+0x5c/0xd0)
>>>  r6 = C042C000  r5 = C0360AD8  r4 = 0000000D 
>>> [<c003fcb4>] (__do_softirq2+0x0/0xd0) from [<c00403a0>]
>>> (ksoftirqd+0x7c/0xbc)
>>>  r8 = 00000001  r7 = C0040324  r6 = C0360AA0  r5 = C042C000
>>>  r4 = 20000013 
>>> [<c0040324>] (ksoftirqd+0x0/0xbc) from [<c004df3c>]
>> (kthread+0xec/0x11c)
>>> r6 = C0427F24  r5 = C042C000  r4 = 00000000
>>> [<c004de50>] (kthread+0x0/0x11c) from [<c003d118>]
>>> (do_exit+0x0/0x780)
>>> Code: bad PC value.
>>>  <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
>>> <0>Rebooting in 3 seconds..
>>>
>>> 2. try
>>> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 412c0000
>>> pgd = c3f68000 [412c0000] *pgd=00000000 Internal error: Oops: f5 
>>> [#1] Modules linked in: ipsec cryptodev ixp4xx ocf ixp400_eth ixp400
>>> CPU: 0
>>> PC is at dma_pool_free+0x2c/0x138
>>> LR is at 0xffc010c0
>>> pc : [<c01684e8>]    lr : [<ffc010c0>]    Tainted: P     
>>> sp : c05379e0  ip : 00e750c0  fp : c0537a00
>>> r10: ffc010c0  r9 : 00000000  r8 : c0e474c8
>>> r7 : ffc010c0  r6 : 8000ad00  r5 : c0e1db00  r4 : 412c0000 r3 : 
>>> 20000093  r2 : 00e750c0  r1 : 20000013  r0 : c0e1db00
>>> Flags: nzCv  IRQs off  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32  Segment user
>>> Control: 39FF  Table: 03F68000  DAC: 00000015
>>> Process cp (pid: 1264, stack limit = 0xc0536198)
>>> Stack: (0xc05379e0 to 0xc0538000)
>>> 79e0: c01b183c c01a5818 c06318a0 ffc00180 8000ad00 c0537a44 c0537a04
>>> c01b2f7c
>>> 7a00: c01684c8 00000001 00000000 00000001 ffc001cc ffc01180 c0537bd4

>>> c0e474c8
>>> 7a20: ffc00180 c0e474c8 ffc001e0 ffc001cc c2dad2e0 00000000 c0537a94

>>> c0537a48
>>> 7a40: c01b3594 c01b2c0c c0537a54 c005acf8 c005ae2c c0537a60 c00d1940

>>> c00d18a0
>>> 7a60: c3809078 c0537a98 c0537bd4 c0e474c8 c0537bd4 00000000 00000017

>>> c0537bd4
>>> 7a80: c2dad2e0 c035aae0 c0537b4c c0537a98 c01b40bc c01b34bc bf00b0dc

>>> c0537acc
>>> 7aa0: c0537aac c00259d8 bf0a8530 c0537acc c0537abc c002fa00 c002f98c

>>> c035aed0
>>> 7ac0: c0537ae8 c0537ad0 c0025c68 c002f9f0 c035aed0 0000001f 00040000

>>> c0537b18
>>> 7ae0: c0537aec c0025d70 c003fe98 c0e474c8 ffc00100 ffffffff 0000001f

>>> 00040000
>>> 7b00: 00000017 c0537bd4 c035aae0 c0537b84 c0537b1c c00249a4 c0025c7c

>>> 00000017
>>> 7b20: c0e768e0 c0537bd4 40000013 c0e768e0 00000017 00000000 c0e47400

>>> 00000000
>>> 7b40: c0537b60 c0537b50 c01a6648 c01b3f3c c0e768e0 c0537b84 c0537b64

>>> c00259d8
>>> 7b60: c01a6614 c035afe8 00000017 c0537bd4 00000016 c0537bd4 c0537ba0

>>> c0537b88
>>> 7b80: c0025c20 c0025998 c035afe8 0000001f 00840000 c0537bd0 c0537ba4

>>> c0025cbc
>>> 7ba0: c0025bc0 c005c32c c005bf18 ffffffff 0000001f 00840000 00000016

>>> c3f6d820
>>> 7bc0: 00000580 c0537c2c c0537bd4 c00249a4 c0025c7c c2e21eb8 c2e210b4

>>> 00000001
>>> 7be0: c041c994 60000013 00000001 00000000 00000016 c3f6d820 c2dad2e0

>>> 00000580
>>> 7c00: c0537c2c c2e2107c c0537c1c c041c994 c0071b50 20000013 ffffffff

>>> c3f45114
>>> 7c20: c0537c40 c0537c30 c0141150 c0071b18 c3f45114 c0537c70 c0537c44

>>> c014135c
>>> 7c40: c014113c c00e2b14 00000000 c2dad2e0 00000000 c3f45034 c3f45134

>>> c3f45114
>>> 7c60: c03db400 c0537ca8 c0537c74 c00e69c0 c014121c 00001000 00001000

>>> c085cc60
>>> 7c80: 00001000 c03db400 c0363264 c03db400 c03db400 c3f45134 00001000

>>> c0537cec
>>> 7ca0: c0537cac c00e7cd8 c00e6890 00001000 c014113c 00000000 c085cc60

>>> 00000000
>>> 7cc0: c07dd4a0 00001000 c03db400 c0363264 c03db400 00000000 00000000

>>> 00580000
>>> 7ce0: c0537cfc c0537cf0 c00de480 c00e7b28 c0537d9c c0537d00 c00597dc

>>> c00de478
>>> 7d00: 00001000 00114048 00001000 c3f45134 c02ffc5c c3f451e8 c07dd4a0

>>> 00000001
>>> 7d20: c0537eb0 00000000 00000000 c0537e38 00800077 00000001 00000000

>>> c03db400
>>> 7d40: c003fe98 c0537d88 c03da780 ffffffff 0000001f 00800000 c0536000

>>> c0e457c0
>>> 7d60: c0537ddc c0537dd8 389053c8 12b9bf38 c0537da0 00000000 00580000

>>> c0537dd0
>>> 7d80: 00000000 00000000 00580000 c07dd4a0 c0537e28 c0537da4 c005a130

>>> c0059428
>>> 7da0: 00000000 00580000 c0537ef8 00001000 00000000 00000000 00001000

>>> c0537ef8
>>> 7dc0: c0537e38 c0537eb0 00000001 00001000 00000000 00580000 c0051f18

>>> 22222222
>>> 7de0: 22222222 22222222 22222222 22222222 c0537eb0 c3f45134 00000000

>>> 00580000
>>> 7e00: c0537eb0 c3f45134 00000000 00580000 c0537ef8 c3f451e8 c3f451a4

>>> c0537e68
>>> 7e20: c0537e2c c005a424 c0059c84 c0537e80 c0537e3c c07dd4a0 00114048

>>> 00001000
>>> 7e40: 00000000 00581000 00001000 00001000 00000000 00580000 00114048

>>> c0537ea0
>>> 7e60: c0537e70 c00de5b4 c005a3b8 00000000 00580000 c0537ea0 00000000

>>> 00580000
>>> 7e80: c0537eb0 c0537ef8 00001000 c07dd4a0 00114048 c0537f50 c0537ea8

>>> c007575c
>>> 7ea0: c00de4dc 00000000 00580000 c0537f78 c003fe98 c0537ec0 00000000

>>> 00000001
>>> 7ec0: ffffffff c07dd4a0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 c0e457c0

>>> 00000000
>>> 7ee0: 00000000 00000001 c0e457c0 c004e3f0 c0537ef0 c0537ef0 00000000

>>> 00580000
>>> 7f00: 00001000 c0536000 c0536000 00000003 c0537f50 c07dd4a0 c0537f2c

>>> 00000000
>>> 7f20: 00000000 00000001 c07dd4a0 00114048 c0075698 c0537f78 c0536000

>>> c0536000
>>> 7f40: 00000003 c0537f74 c0537f54 c0075870 c00756a4 c07dd4c0 c07dd4a0

>>> c0537f78
>>> 7f60: 00000000 00580000 c0537fa4 c0537f78 c00759dc c00757b0 00000000

>>> 00580000
>>> 7f80: 00000000 00001000 00001000 00114048 00000004 c0024ec4 00000000

>>> c0537fa8
>>> 7fa0: c0024d20 c007599c 00001000 00001000 00000004 00114048 00001000

>>> ffa80000
>>> 7fc0: 00001000 00001000 00114048 00000004 00000004 bef09e24 00000003

>>> 00000001
>>> 7fe0: 0004bc20 bef09b98 0003a464 4005f270 20000010 00000004 00000000

>>> 00000000
>>> Backtrace:
>>> [<c01684bc>] (dma_pool_free+0x0/0x138) from [<c01b2f7c>]
>>> (qh_completions+0x37c/0x404)
>>>  r6 = 8000AD00  r5 = FFC00180  r4 = C06318A0
>>> [<c01b2c00>] (qh_completions+0x0/0x404) from [<c01b3594>]
>>> (ehci_work+0xe4/0x69c)
>>> [<c01b34b0>] (ehci_work+0x0/0x69c) from [<c01b40bc>]
>>> (ehci_irq+0x18c/0x1a4)
>>> [<c01b3f30>] (ehci_irq+0x0/0x1a4) from [<c01a6648>]
>>> (usb_hcd_irq+0x40/0x84)
>>>  r5 = 00000000  r4 = C0E47400 
>>> [<c01a6608>] (usb_hcd_irq+0x0/0x84) from [<c00259d8>]
>>> (__do_irq+0x4c/0x88)
>>>  r4 = C0E768E0 
>>> [<c002598c>] (__do_irq+0x0/0x88) from [<c0025c20>]
>>> (do_level_IRQ+0x6c/0xbc)
>>>  r8 = C0537BD4  r7 = 00000016  r6 = C0537BD4  r5 = 00000017
>>>  r4 = C035AFE8 
>>> [<c0025bb4>] (do_level_IRQ+0x0/0xbc) from [<c0025cbc>]
>>> (asm_do_IRQ+0x4c/0x118)
>>>  r6 = 00840000  r5 = 0000001F  r4 = C035AFE8 
>>> [<c0025c70>] (asm_do_IRQ+0x0/0x118) from [<c00249a4>]
>>> (__irq_svc+0x24/0x60)
>>> [<c0071b0c>] (kmem_cache_alloc+0x0/0x4c) from [<c0141150>]
>>> (radix_tree_node_alloc+0x20/0x5c)
>>>  r4 = C3F45114 
>>> [<c0141130>] (radix_tree_node_alloc+0x0/0x5c) from [<c014135c>]
>>> (radix_tree_insert+0x14c/0x204)
>>>  r4 = C3F45114 
>>> [<c0141210>] (radix_tree_insert+0x0/0x204) from [<c00e69c0>]
>>> (nfs_update_request+0x13c/0x2a4)
>>> [<c00e6884>] (nfs_update_request+0x0/0x2a4) from [<c00e7cd8>]
>>> (nfs_updatepage+0x1bc/0x2a0)
>>> [<c00e7b1c>] (nfs_updatepage+0x0/0x2a0) from [<c00de480>]
>>> (nfs_commit_write+0x14/0x18)
>>> [<c00de46c>] (nfs_commit_write+0x0/0x18) from [<c00597dc>]
>>> (generic_file_buffered_write+0x3c4/0x5c8)
>>> [<c005941c>] (generic_file_buffered_write+0x4/0x5c8) from
> [<c005a130>]
>>> (__generic_file_aio_write_nolock+0x4b8/0x4e8)
>>> [<c0059c78>] (__generic_file_aio_write_nolock+0x0/0x4e8) from 
>>> [<c005a424>] (generic_file_aio_write+0x7c/0xf0)
>>> [<c005a3ac>] (generic_file_aio_write+0x4/0xf0) from [<c00de5b4>]
>>> (nfs_file_write+0xe8/0x10c)
>>> [<c00de4d0>] (nfs_file_write+0x4/0x10c) from [<c007575c>]
>>> (do_sync_write+0xc4/0x10c)
>>> [<c0075698>] (do_sync_write+0x0/0x10c) from [<c0075870>]
>>> (vfs_write+0xcc/0x178)
>>> [<c00757a4>] (vfs_write+0x0/0x178) from [<c00759dc>]
>>> (sys_write+0x4c/0x74)
>>>  r8 = 00580000  r7 = 00000000  r6 = C0537F78  r5 = C07DD4A0  r4 =
>>> C07DD4C0 [<c0075990>] (sys_write+0x0/0x74) from [<c0024d20>]
>>> (ret_fast_syscall+0x0/0x2c)
>>>  r8 = C0024EC4  r7 = 00000004  r6 = 00114048  r5 = 00001000
>>>  r4 = 00001000 
>>> Code: e10f1000 e3813080 e121f003 e5904000 (e5943000) 
>>>  <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
>>> <0>Rebooting in 3 seconds..
>>>
>>> I hope you can help me.
>>> Thanks and regards
>>> Siegfried
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg Ungerer
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2007 01:16
>>> An: uClinux development list
>>> Betreff: Re: [uClinux-dev] USB storage+IXP425+NECuPD720101 crashes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Siegfried,
>>>
>>> Siegfried Müller wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I'm using montaejade ixp425. I configured snapgear-linux with 
>>>> EHCI,OHCI,UHCI + USB-Storage + SCSI. I can mount the external
> storage
>>>> device with: mount /dev/sda1 /var/usb -t vfat -o sync and i can
>> browse
>>>> on the memorystick. I also have an "nfs" mount on for example
>>>> /var/nfs to another computer. If I copy files bigger than ~5MB from

>>>> the memorystick to the another computer, my system crashes with:
>>>> "Unable to handle kernel pagging request at virtual address xxxxxx
>>> (the
>>>> address different anytime)"
>>>>
>>>> Also in the other direction (computer to memorystick)
>>>> It seems that it depends on the filesize?!
>>>> Does anyone has an idea?
>>> What version kernel are you using?
>>> Where in the kernel does it trap?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
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