"Since that device included NOR flash this buffering is not used."

Do u mean to say for NOR flash we won't have this problem ? Why?

- prasad

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Keith Mund (AZ) <keithm...@cox.net> wrote:
> Here is a link to an article that discusses jffs2. It includes the quote
> about NAND flash and buffers that follows.
>
> http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/faq/jffs2.html
>
> "On NAND FLASHM and NOR ECC FLASH we have a write-buffer for writing only
> full pages to the chips. There could be a loss of data, when the
> write-buffer is not flushed before power down. There are some mechanisms to
> ensure, that the write-buffer is flushed. You can force the flush of the
> write-buffer by using fsync() or sync() in your application. JFFS2 has a
> timed flush of the write buffer, which forces the flush of the buffer to
> flash, if there are no writes to the filesystem for more than about 5
> seconds. The time depends on the cycle-time of kupdated, which can be
> adjusted via /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs"
>
> Adjusting kupdated would seem to affect more than just jffs2 so it may not
> be the best way to improve this but it is at one person's opinion on a
> salution.
>
> This made me rethink why this problem wasn't experienced in the last project
> in which I used jffs2. Since that device included NOR flash this buffering
> is not used.
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uclinux-dev-boun...@uclinux.org
> [mailto:uclinux-dev-boun...@uclinux.org] On Behalf Of Allen Yang
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:29 AM
> To: uClinux development list
> Subject: RE: [uClinux-dev] JFFS2 file corrupt at power down.
>
> I didn't realize I hijack the thread. Sorry about that.
>
> I can use fsync() or sync(). However, power can be turned off at any
> time even during the sync() in the embedded systems. So I think using
> backup file is necessary to recover from corrupt files.
>
> UBIFS doesn't have this type of problems?
>
> Regards,
>
> Allen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uclinux-dev-boun...@uclinux.org
> [mailto:uclinux-dev-boun...@uclinux.org] On Behalf Of Allon Stern
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:53 AM
> To: uClinux development list
> Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] JFFS2 file corrupt at power down.
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Allen Yang wrote:
>> The problem I have now is sometimes the XML files get corrupted when
>> board is powered down. The corrupt XML file size is 0 or only a
>> portion
>> of the good file size.
>>
>> Is JFFS2 supposed to be power down safe? Maybe I missed something when
>> using JFFS2.
>
> (thread hijacking aside)
>
> I had a number of problems with JFFS2 on my uClinux board; we ended up
> switching to UBIFS, which seems to handle powerdowns pretty well.
>
> Filesystem notwithstanding, make sure that any changes you want
> committed are followed up with an fsync. If you don't fsync, then
> there's a chance that the write will be cached in memory and lost
> before being stored persistently. This is true for any filesystem.
>
> -
> allon
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