Brother "Fransis Tawoda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
You are right!! We should not celebrate prematurely!!
Talisman owned about 30% of the oil from Sudan. China or( India ?), owns some similar percentage!!
The Sudanese State owns 2.5 % only. Now if some few Canadians (about 100) own that much of our resourses and pass it on to some other gold-diggers how can you say the Sudanese have won?
Remember Congo Brazzaville owned 7.5% of their oilfilds. The French oil Co (Elfs ?) gave the President of Congo Brazzaville an order to reduce/ accept a reduction to 5%. He refused, and a few months later he was overthrown!! I last heard about him when he was a refuge in Texas!!
In the West (Britain, Canada etc...) the companies own 100% of the oil. But the money still remains in the economies of these countries, even if it is owned by individuals unlike Africa where all the money is taken out.
Kashagama who is congratulated here is the same man who was at the vanguard against "Blood diamonds". I wrote to Dan Kashagama to tell him that diamonds have always been bloody!!
Tjhe only difference now being that people like Nigerian scientist Philpi Emagueri and others solved the equations of "Planetary Fluid Mechanics" ( some of the most intractable and beatiful equations you have ever seen !! -- Newton spent 17 years trying to solve a 'three body problem' of the earth, the moon and the sun and he failed!! ). Until the 1950's Geology was not a Science but some book-keeping like Geograpy!! (sorry but I am not just putting down Geograpy).
With the solution of these equations, mining of oil, diamonds, gold etc... is no longer a trial and error process of digging ( very expensive).
So DeBeers was afraid that the diamond market was going to be flooded with stones, to render a collapse of prices. So to keep out some diamonds from the likes of Kabila, Mugabe, Nujoma, you and me etc... they decided to label those types of diamonds "Blood diamonds".
To push for an embargo on "blood diamonds" is to unwittingly push the agenda of DeBeers!!
Brothers and sisters, whichever side you are on in the Sudanese conflict dont think that the Sudanese people have won. I wish they had!!
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"Ivinicus factus sum veritabem diceus." ( I have become an enemy for speaking the truth ) St Paul!
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Mitayo Potosi
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Subject: Re: ugnet_: AFRICANS I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:57:38 -0500
Mulindwa:
I would not begin celebrating yet. This international exploitation business is very complex. Talisman could have created a company in the Cayman Islands to buy its own shares. My view is this: where there is big money, there are always snakes in the grass. Our biggest problem in Africa, is not being able to quickly detect where the money is coming from. Believe it or not, South African companies In the Apateid SA) were investing and drawing profits from all African countries, including those that were dead set against racial segregation.
Having said the above, I will agree with you, the symbolic gesture is a win for the suffering people in southern Sudan.
Tf
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Subject: ugnet_: AFRICANS I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:49:01 -0500
Netters
Good evening, I am so excited for we have some good news to post. You see net should not only be a place to post bad news.
Guess what, the biggest Canadian drilling company that has been feeding on the Sudanese population, Talisman Energy, has left Sudan with immediate effect. The information I got some 28 minutes ago is that talisman has decided to sell all her properties in Sudan and leaving.
Now let us go back a little bit. Those of you in Canada will remember that talisman has been the major Canadian company we believe is pumping money to the Khartoum government on the backs of our African families. The pressure has worked and they are gone. This is exactly what we have been talking about in our postings. We have dictatorial governments with dictatorial leaders but as Africans we want to fight them when the West is not funding them. That is why I have always called for a full embargo on African minerals for 5 years.
This information has just popped in, so we do not know who has bought Talisman's interests in Sudan, but we know for sure that it is not an American or European company, and I can assure the one who has bought this company that the war is only beginning., We are tired of seeing our African kids dying when the stocks in Western countries are going up. Do it any where but in Canada we will continue to yell.
I must not forget those who have cried day and night to see that talisman gets out of Sudan. Dan kashagama's name must pop in and all those in Western Canada. It is a job well done. But remember Sudan ain't free yet but this is a step in a right direction.
Em
The Mulindwas communication group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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