Dada
From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: OMWAAMI MATOVU Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:44:12 +0000 (GMT)To this date and in the twenty first century Uganda it is inconceivable that we have Ugandans who so choose to preferentially analyse the political situations Uganda has been through. It takes a tremendous amount of efforts to train a fool,but one needs even much more input in making people who are obsessed with mis-and disinformation as their modus operandi to get to the honest grips of facts about what is happening around them. First is the preferred belief by many a quasi political analysts like Paolo Wangoola to tell all and sundry that UPC/Obote introduced militarism into the body politics of Uganda without clearly outlining the events preceeding what led to Lubiri being stormed by Amin in 1966.They do not want Ugandans who are interested in knowing the factual events of the time to know anything about Brigadier Shaban Opolot and his role in those precceding events for example.Then presently we have people like Adam Dada and his cohorts of Matovu et al who are still charading the song that UNLF were the only people involved in the theatre of the so called Luwero triangle.They have preferentially chosen not to see the similarities of the mayhem being orchestrated in other theatres of war as varied and diverse as Rwanda,the DRC,Northern Uganda,Angola(before the demise of Savimbi-the comrade in crime of Mu7) where there is no UNLF/Obote but whose only constant passenger is Mu7 and his emissaries.This to me is the limit of intellectual improbity!.We need to be very candid about our observations and analyses if ever we shall as Ugandans learn to know who our actual enemies are.We should not continue to live like the citizens of the former Communist states who were constantly fed on mis-and disinformation as a means by their governments to explain away the problems that they were unable to solve.Lets be frank and set up a truth and justice Commission and I am pretty sure we shall clearly know who was and still is behind this wanton human rights abuses that Ugandans have been subjected to and so are the Rwandese,Angolans and the people of the Democratic Republic of Congo. By the way was it Obote who ordered soldiers to shoot at the then Katikkiro Paulo Kavuma when un armed people were peacefully protesting about the sudden removal of the Late Professor Yusuf Kironde Lule (RIP) as the first post Iddi Amin president of Uganda. Thanks. Kipenji. ================================================================================================================--- Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mulindwa, I dont think YOU ARE the right person, > neither do you have the > moral authority of turning around and asking Matovu > to apologise. You have > hurled insults to Kabaka and Baganda and YOU HAVE > NEVER APOLOGIZED for that. > What Matovu said is infact what YOU AND YOUR OBOTE > used to tell Baganda in > Luweero triangle - ie to disown Museveni. INFACT > NETTERS, THERE IS NOTHING > TO APOLOGISE FOR. "MULINDWA"(as he likes to call > himself to confuse people > he is a muganda) IS A DERANGED MAN, JUST IGNORE HIM. > Dada > > > > > > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: ugnet_: OMWAAMI MATOVU > >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:55:45 -0000 (GMT) > > > >Mwaami Matovu > >There is nothing to re read. I am not here to > discuss peace or war, I am > >here and wasting time fighting your both inhumane > and stupid statment and > >if you have fogorten it I will again quote your > statment to Mwaami > >Ssemakula. "If the people of Northern Uganda want > total peace, they should > >disown Kony and work for peace" Please adress that > statment do not take me > >into hullabaloes. > > > >Mwaami Matovu let us keep this discussion in the > forum for now, are you > >stating that Matekopok Chris Opoka lisa Toro > pinytek Fugee and the rest of > >Northerners are responsible for the problems in the > North? > > > >Is that the official NRM belief or you are just a > simple uneducated lousy > >lost lamb? > > > >Matovu after I was shocked by your inhumane > posting, I called a Ugandan > >and on longdistant phone and I complained on what > you stated. He said > >"Edward do not worry about Lutimba Matovu, for he > is a sick man" Now I > >would like to believe that you are a blind NRM > supporter who has lost > >track, and I can live with that, but I have a > problem accepting that you > >are a sick man. So help me here and just withdraw > this statment. > >Northerners are not responsible for what is > happening in their land. Just > >state it accompanied with just three words, I am > sorry!! > > > >By this posting, I am as well officially calling > every member in these > >forums, to join me into asking our fellow Ugandan > Mwaami Lutimba Matovu to > >withdraw a statment that Northerners are > responsible for the war in their > >land. For I feel it is the only fare thing for all > of us to do if we can > >save our country. > >Em > > > >Mulindwa, > > > > > > Re-read what I said grasp the issues and > understand > > > rather than writing nonsense. > > > > > > Nobody wants peace in Northern Uganda than the > > > government but how can peace come when one side > of the > > > conflict is virtually committed to endless war? > Didn't > > > we have war in your West Nile? UNRF II laid down > their > > > guns, sought total peace and the people are > enjoying > > > rhe benefits like all other Ugandans. > > > > > > Mulindwa the people of Uganda do not like war > and > > > anybody who with the mistaken belief think they > can > > > start a war, they will be doomed. Why fight for > 16 > > > years? Which war is that whose only result is to > kill, > > > maim and displace the population? > > > > > > The mood of the people is no more wars period. > You may > > > not know this but know it today in Uganda people > got > > > fed up with wars long time ago except for the > > > misguided. > > > > > > Take it or leave it. > > > > > > LM > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Mwaami Matovu > > >> > > >> The danger I see in your reasoning, is to state > that > > >> if people in the > > >> North want peace. Matovu that is a very > degrading > > >> statment and please I > > >> beg you withdraw it. That is no diffrent than > > >> Museveni calling Northerners > > >> biological substances. For what you are stating > is > > >> that in your research > > >> or study you have concluded that all > Northerners are > > >> people who do not > > >> want peace. Do you have the ability to do so? > One > > >> wonders. > > >> > > >> Matovu you are staing in a public forum that > > >> Northerners decided to die > > >> enmas as have been the case, have decided to > have > > >> schools closed and to be > > >> raped by UPDF as have been, and I wonder if > they are > > >> that silly. > > >> You see there is a certain stupidity I can > acomodate > > >> but this classifying > > >> of the entire population is not helping here. > What > > >> you need to do is to > > >> tell us where the meeting was that decided that > let > > >> us put insitability in > > >> our part of the nation and I do not think you > can do > > >> that either. So cut > > >> the crap and shut the hell up. > > >> > > >> For the record the people of Northern Uganda > have > > >> been victims of your > > >> government for years and years, your government > has > > >> been making promises > > >> of bringing peace and making dead lines after > dead > > >> lines which are not > > >> full filled, let it be kazini Museveni or even > Salim > > >> Saleh. Now having > > >> passed all that which we have stomached, you > are now > > >> telling Northerners > > >> who are some even members in these forums that > they > > >> are responsible for > > >> what they and their people are getting? > > >> > > >> Mwaami matovu, just how inhumane can you be? > > >> Em > > >> > > >> > > >> Ssemakula, > > >> > > > >> > I think you the one who is a "dense" pupil. > > >> Museveni > > >> > has for years called for peace in Northern > Uganda > > >> but > > >> > the perpetrators of the crimes and financiers > of > > >> the > > >> > war have refused to stop the war. > > >> > > > >> > War was in Teso and West Nile but the people > in > > >> those > > >> > areas saw sense and gave up and there is > peace in > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com
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