Adan Dada I am wondering whether anywhere in my submission I challenged your very much love for the Baganda.That is your choice that is to me sacrosanct.I am not even labouring to defend one of your own whom you feel should behave like you but has not and so your banter about his not being a Muganda.I wonder whether you are his Father or mother to come up with such outrageous assertions.Adam Dada infact I almost wrote Amin Dada,you should try to take time and pore through what people write before you start yammering around. What I stated still remains true and that is,most Baganda like yourself do not expect others to hold opinions on anything at variance with what they hold otherwise they cease to be Baganda!.This type of reasoning is what falls into the category of Revisionist Intellectualism which you appear to be tentering towards.Uniformity by the way does not mean Conformity and the inverse should also be true.What Mulindwa writes about Buganda and Baganda is not for me to judge but let those who feel it is their preserve to to do so do it. Pomp is and has never been my way.If comprehending the language I am commuinicating with you in is your problem,just say so otherwise no need for your tantrums. Thanks. Emirembe gibe nawe. Kipenji. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kipenji, I repeat - what I said doesnt require you > to labour with pomp. You > must be about the only one who unaware of > "Mulindwa,s" unmitigated hatred > and venom against the Baganda - this is simply > beyong objectivity. While we > were all wondering why that was, reliable sources > helped us solve the > puzzle, the man is an impersonater. Kipenji, you > probably also know well > that the man is your kith. Unfortunately, when he > applied to join Acholinet > (as Otigo revealed to us all on this forum), > permission was denied. So the > man is a bitter man, but you could probably use your > pomp there to help him > gain entrance to Acholinet. Otherwise you pomp is > totally misplaced here in > a very simple matter. If you are so enlightened > about "Mulindwa's" views > over the years, I challenge you now to quote me and > this forum just one > positive statement that "Mulindwa" has said about > Buganda, Baganda and their > Kabaka. Be sure to put your nose where you have the > hard facts "Dr" Kipenji, > otherwise you pomp risks being irreparably > tarnished.I love the Baganda very > much, whether you like it or not. > Dada > > > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: OMWAAMI MATOVU > >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:07:15 +0000 (GMT) > > > > > >Adam Dada are you in the league of revisionist > intellectuals that are > >presently > >looting Uganda dry?.If not then there is no pomp in > the language I used. > >Let's learn not to associate or to want to > associate with others based on > >the palatability of what they tell us as long as > that serves our parochial > >interests. > >It is apparent that whenence one says something > that appears obtuse to many > >a "Baganda" the best way to handle it has been to > deny that person's > >Kiganda heritage.I am beginning to wonder what > would happen if Magulonyondo > >Ssabasajja Ronald Muwenda Mutebi 2 said something > akin to what these > >ordinary souls like Mulindwa is saying.Will you > follow the same precedence > >and disown him as being an Acholi for example?. > >Please do educate those of my type who are very > confused about the psyche > >of your ilk. > >Thanks. > >Kipenji. > >============================================================================================================================== > > Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:You > Kipenji man - there is no > >point in using pompous language, when you are > >off point. Mine was a simple interjection - why > would "Mulindwa" want > >Matovu > >to apologise to something that isnt a novelity in > Ugandan contemporay > >history. Plus, to my mind, Mulindwa has more to > apologise for than Matovu > >about the utterances he has incessantly made about > a whole people (Baganda) > >and their Kabaka. Silence doesnt mean that people > dont note these things - > >"Mulindwa" has had no kind word for the Baganda, > despite the fact that he > >appears to have been adopted by the Buganda > Kingdom, judging from the name > >he likes to use - "Mulindwa". He probably doesnt > even know his ancestral > >name. I dont think that "Mulindwa's" life in > Buganda has been only > >negative, > >that land has literally brought him up - he even > doesnt know his native > >tongue in northern Uganda. At least I am greatful > to Buganda for all that > >they did for me when I was there. So brother > Kipenji you didnt have to > >labour with your pompous language to put the point > across. > >Dada > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: OMWAAMI MATOVU > > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:44:12 +0000 (GMT) > > > > > >To this date and in the twenty first century > Uganda it > > > > > >is inconceivable that we have Ugandans who so > choose > > >to preferentially analyse the political > situations > > >Uganda has been through. > > >It takes a tremendous amount of efforts to train > a > > >fool,but one needs even much more input in making > > >people who are obsessed with mis-and > disinformation as > > >their modus operandi to get to the honest grips > of > > >facts about what is happening around them. First > is > > >the preferred belief by many a quasi political > > >analysts like Paolo Wangoola to tell all and > sundry > > >that UPC/Obote introduced militarism into the > body > > >politics of Uganda without clearly outlining the > > >events preceeding what led to Lubiri being > stormed by > > >Amin in 1966.They do not want Ugandans who are > > >interested in knowing the factual events of the > time > > >to know anything about Brigadier Shaban Opolot > and his > > >role in those precceding events for example.Then > > >presently we have people like Adam Dada and his > > >cohorts of Matovu et al who are still charading > the > > >song that UNLF were the only people involved in > the > > >theatre of the so called Luwero triangle.They > have > > >preferentially chosen not to see the similarities > of > > >the mayhem being orchestrated in other theatres > of war > > >as varied and diverse as Rwanda,the DRC,Northern > > >Uganda,Angola(before the demise of Savimbi-the > comrade > > >in crime of Mu7) where there is no UNLF/Obote but > > >whose only constant passenger is Mu7 and his > > >emissaries.This to me is the limit of > intellectual > > >improbity!.We need to be very candid about our > > >observations and analyses if ever we shall as > Ugandans > > >learn to know who our actual enemies are.We > should not > > >continue to live like the citizens of the former > > >Communist states who were constantly fed on > mis-and > > >disinformation as a means by their governments to > > >explain away the problems that they were unable > to > > >solve.Lets be frank and set up a truth and > justice > > >Commission and I am pretty sure we shall clearly > know > > >who was and still is behind this wanton human > rights > > >abuses that Ugandans have been subjected to and > so are > > >the Rwandese,Angolans and the people of the > Democratic > > >Republic of Congo. > > >By the way was it Obote who ordered soldiers to > shoot > > >at the then Katikkiro Paulo Kavuma when un armed > > >people were peacefully protesting about the > sudden > > >removal of the Late Professor Yusuf Kironde Lule > (RIP) > > >as the first post Iddi Amin president of Uganda. > > >Thanks. > > >Kipenji. > > > >================================================================================================================--- > > >Adam Dada wrote: > Mulindwa, I > > >dont think YOU ARE the right person, > > > > neither do you have the > > > > moral authority of turning around and asking > Matovu > > > > to apologise. You have > === message truncated ===
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