The report was obviously biased because he did not ask Obote about why he instituted a single party system, if he found it suitable then why is it not suitable now (what is good for the goose is also good for the gander). The reporter should also have quizzed him about the lack of democracy in the UPC. He should have asked Obote why he is still the President of UPC after after 50years, and whether that is democratic and whether he it is because there is nobody in the UPC who is good enough to replace him. If he cares so much for Uganda why does he have to be the flag bearer for the UPC, at 80+ years (after being president twice), does he not fill that it would be better for the country and his party to have a younger person take over. Mulindwa likes to boast about the youths in the UPC, it appears there will be no vacancies for them for a long time to come. They will only be used and droped.
Netters look at this quote from Obote "I abolished institutions which were being used to destabilise the whole nation. But from that time, we have all learnt our lessons." He say "I" how can he unilaterally abolish a constitution and this same man (Obote) is talking about restoring democracy and democratic ideals. Notice how he says "WE HAVE ALL LEARNT OUR LESSONS" it is an indication that he knew that he was wrong, but of course in pure Obote (and UPC) he refuses to take responsibility rather he says "WE HAVE LEARNT OUR LESSONS"
How can you abolish instutions that define the federal character of a country and then say you did not abolish federalism only fools will fall for that crap. Now Obote realises his mistakes his now coming back to embrace federalism for the sake of votes, FELLOW UGANDANS YOU ARE SEEING A CON MAN AT HIS BEST HERE, IF YOU'VE BEEN FOOLED ONCE YOU BETTER NOT BE FOOLED ONCE BECAUSE ONCE A LIER ALWAYS ALIER. OBOTE IS A BLOODY LIER AND HE 'AINT FOOLING ME.
Notice how he uses "I" "I will fight Museveni", I will do this, I will do that, he might as well fight for himself, because Ugandans don't need him to fight for them.
Finaly Obote seems to be for federalism "now" (as he says he has now learnt his lessons), while MULINDWA IS AGAINST FEDERALISM, A CASE OF THE SERVANT BEING AT ODDS WITH THE MASTER I GUESS. MULINDWA YOU BETTER WATCH WHAT YOU SAY OR YOU MIGHT BE OUT OF UPC. YOUR MASTER LEARNS HIS LESSONS VERY FAST AND FREQUENTLY IT APPEARS.
From: "The Fugee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: Musaazi: Fw: The Monitor, July 14, 1997 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:42:49 +0200
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Fugee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UPCNet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 8:40 PM Subject: The Monitor, July 14, 1997
>
>
> Obote on mercenaries, Museveni and wars
>
> The Monitor, July 14, 1997
>
> Last week, a delegation of members of the Uganda People's Congress (UPC)
> flew to
> Lusaka, Zambia to consult their exiled party president Dr Apollo Milton
> Obote. They billed the
> meeting as a turning point both for the UPC and for politics in Uganda.
>
> Monitor's Staffer, Andrew M. Mwenda flew there and Thursday July 10
> interviewed the
> twice deposed exiled Ugandan presidentat his palatial residence in Lusaka.
>
> Obote first made a brief statement about his views on the mass media
in
> Uganda
> particularly the press, and an outline of Uganda's political landscape, at
> least as he interprets
> it. Readon:-
>
> Obote: I read the Ugandan press. I don't listen to Uganda
> Television, Radio Uganda or other radios in Uganda. While I am happy that
> the Ugandan
> press appears to be fighting and defending the freedom of the press,
> however, I am
> disappointed that it is largely in support of dictatorship to the extent
> that it supports the
> suppression of UPC.
>
> UPC must not discuss public affairs by convening a public rally; it
> must not contest
> elections; and the Ugandan press is very happy and comfortable with that.
>
> Yet, freedom of the press, and political freedom of the citizens to
> participate in the affairs
> of his\her country are the same. The press is riding a very dangerous
> tiger!
>
> Today, the NRA\M dictatorship is using the press to kill political
> parties. When the parties
> are dead, the same dictatorship will turn against the press. It will
come
> because
> dictatorship comes in doses and does not allow sharing ideas and opinions.
>
> The NRA\M dictatorship will tolerate press freedom today because it
has
> a bigger enemy
> to fight, political parties. It is sad that Ugandans who are managing
papers
> cannot see that by
> not supporting the parties, they are putting a noose around their necks.
>
> It was a French philosopher who said that "I don't agree
> with what he says. But I will fight for his freedom to say what he has to
> say." The press in
> Uganda don't want UPC to say
> anything. They want only Museveni to say everything. Tomorrow Museveni
will
> tell Oguttu
> Wafula, (Monitor Editor-in-Chief)"Don't say anything."
>
> Here I exclude William Pike and his wife [Cathy Watson] and such
> characters who are
> foreigners. Pike is a mercenary. He earns a lot of money. He's got to
serve
> his master.
> Museveni is also a foreigner, a refugee for that matter. Ask me, I will
tell
> you 5 to 7 of my
> ancestors.
>
> Can Museveni do that? He does not even know his father because his
> father is even not
> Kaguta (Amos). In 1986, the father went to see him in Entebbe, he
travelled
> from Tanzania.
> He paid him a lot of money and said, "go back and keep quiet." You cannot
> have a president
> who pays his father to go away and keep quiet.
>
> I have seen on the internet today, Pike William, [New Vision
> Editor-in-Chief] a mercenary,
> who was not even in Uganda in the 1960s...or even in the 1980s unless he
was
> in Luwero
> with Museveni, saying Obote is a killer. Pike saying Obote is a killer and
> not Museveni? Which
> person has Obote killed or which war has he waged? Which war?
>
> Museveni went to the bush in Luwero in 1981 and everybody knows this.
> If you wage a
> war, are you playing football? You don't kill anybody? Since Museveni
became
> president in
> 1986, have wars and killings stopped? Wars in Bukedi, in Teso, Lango,
> Acholi, West Nile and
> wars now in the west? How many people were
> involved in these wars in Uganda between 1981 and 1985... only in the so
> called Luwero
> triangle? Not more than 300,000 people.
>
> Now take north Bukedi, the whole of Teso, Lango, Acholi, West Nile
and
> the west, how
> many people are involved? Over 2 million! Go to Teso, there are no longer
> animals there.
> What happened? They say rebels.
>
> How many rebels were in Teso that could eat 4 million livestock? And
> they go and eat 2
> million in Lango, and many others in Acholi. Where are the bones? Did
rebels
> also eat the
> bones of the livestock?
>
> Luwero war, it was in the interest of Museveni to create havoc and
> place blame on the
> government. It was in his interest to expand the theatre of war. It was
> not in the interest of
> the UPC government to commit atrocities in Luwero because UPC was in
> government and
> wanted to be popular.
>
> Actually, UPC worked hard to contain Museveni's war within Luwero
> triangle. And we did
> succeed to contain him in Luwero triangle. If his war was popular why
didn't
> he expand into
> otherparts of Uganda or Buganda?
>
> We had a very good policy going by the generic term "development in a
> secure
> environment." We introduced programs of rehabilitation of the economy, of
> social services.
> Within four
> and a half years, the economy of Uganda which had totally collapsed during
> Amin's time was
> coming up. By 1985, the economy was growing at 6 percent per annum.
>
> It is the UPC government in Uganda in 1981 that introduced this thing
> that is being taught
> all over Africa today.... the free market economy. When Museveni came into
> power in 1986,
> he rejected the entire policy plus all its projects. He introduced barter
> trade which is the most
> primitive method of doing business today. Some mangoes and fish from Cuba
> came to the
> airport and got rotten there. What else did Museveni do. He reformed the
> currency. He struck
> off two zeros from the money. In a way this looked good because a parent
who
> was paying
> Shs 500 for school fees would now pay Shs 5. But three things happened.
One,
> Museveni took
> off from everyone's money 30 percent. He has never explained where he put
> it. But removing
> 30 percent of the money in circulation from the economy by force hit the
> rural poor badly.
>
> Also, the new currency was soon eaten into by inflation and in a
short
> time, the two zeros
> had returned. But the peasant who had thought he would now pay Shs 5 for
> school fees soon
> found he had to pay Shs 500. He could not raise this money because all he
> had was Shs. 5.
> But there was no budget which was read and the money generated from the 30
> percent
> explained and its expenditure outlined. So poverty took over the rural
> areas. That is
> why Museveni fears multi-party competition in the rural areas.
>
> I am going to fight Museveni. I don't belong to Kony, Lakwena, West
> Nile Bank Front,
> Itongwa etc. I have a political party and I will fight him. He thinks he
can
> run away with it. He
> has not and I am fighting him. I am taking him to court.
>
> Read the constitution. Article 261 says that elections shall be held
> under the movement
> system. In 1996 elections were held under movement system. Did you know
what
> the
> movement political system was? Even Museveni did not know. He has just
> produced a bill and
> it was passed by parliament yesterday. So people
> voted for a movement system they did not know, whose structure had
> not been written.
>
> Ben Ochan [New Vision]: How do you rate Museveni's performance on the
> economy,
> socially and politically and what isthe future of Uganda?
>
> Obote: But I have already told you about the economy. How can you say
> that the economy
> is growing at 8-10 percent when poverty is growing at 80 percent? True, it
> is possible that
> there could be growth. But it is not improving the standard of living of
the
> people. This means
> funds have been exhausted in projects which don't help improve the lot of
> the poor people
> including the youth.
>
> Take for example this funny thing called UPE. Without building a
single
> primary school,
> without paying teachers, without providing equipment to schools, the
man
> came up and
> said, "four children from every family are going to school free." You end
up
> with 300 per class. What is the effect? You're destroying quality
education
> in Uganda. You're
> lucky you went to school during the UPC administration and were able to
> enjoy
> quality education. But children going to school now are in trouble.
> Museveni wants us to be
> ignorant so that he can rule us.
>
> The New Vision of June 27, 1989 published Museveni telling Caroline
> (Lamwaka) that 2.7
> million people in Gulu were in camps. All their property was destroyed.
Did
> that happen under
> Obote?
>
> What happened to those who remained? You cannot take everybody. That
> holocaust went
> to Akokoro where I was born and my father was killed. How many were
killed.
> Possibly
> 2.7 million or even more. Some were shot, others were herded in houses
which
> were then
> blown away and William Pike has the temerity of calling Obote a killer?
He's
> lucky I am not a
> killer otherwise I would find a way of killing him in memory of my father.
>
> That fellow who was organising Museveni's election, Steven Akabway,
his
> father was killed
> like a dog by the soldiers. And Pike has the audacity of accusing me of
> killing?
>
> Andrew Mwenda: (The Monitor) Your government in 1967 abolished the
> federal status for
> Buganda and the semi federal status for other kingdoms. Now UPC has come
out
> supporting
> a federal system of government. What are the reasons for this change of
> heart?
>
> Obote: If you look at things in a sober way, you find that people are
> complaining and
> quarrelling about nothing. In 1962, we had a provision in the constitution
> which said we had
> agreed to maintain the power which the Lukiiko in Buganda had, the which
> power the
> Ishegyero in Ankole, the Rukurato in Bunyoro and Toro had. We retained
those
> powers. UPC
> is now saying that all these powers should be codified and rationalised
> without giving any
> one region a better status than others. But we insist that the federal
> legislature should be
> elected.
>
> You say UPC abolished federo. That is not true. I abolished
> institutions which were being used to destabilise the whole nation. But
from
> that time, we
> have all learnt our lessons.
>
> There is also no such thing that Museveni restored the traditional
> institutions which we
> abolished in 1967. Has
> Museveni restored the Kabaka? What does restoration mean?
>
> Mwenda: Bringing back what was there before.
>
> Obote: Has he done that?
>
> Mwenda: Explain to us.
>
> Obote: Read the 1962 constitution and then read the present one. Are
> they the same when
> it comes to these traditional institutions? They're not. In the 1967
> constitution, we never said
> nobody should be called Kabaka. Museveni has only restored
> images of what used to be. There is no substance.
>
> Mwenda: Can you clearly draw for us the difference between the
> institutions you abolished
> in 1967 and the ones Museveni has brought into existence today?
>
> Obote: We never abolished cultural institutions. We abolished
> governmental institutions
> that were administrative and political and were also being used to
> destabilise Uganda. He
> has not restored these. Take Buganda for example, there was a Lukiiko with
> power of
> taxation. Has Museveni restored this? What has he restored?
>
> Ochan: Buganda has a now a Lukiiko.
>
> Obote: It is a cultural Lukiiko to talk about marriages etc., not a
> political Lukiiko like we
> had in the 1960s.
>
>
>
> To be continued tommorow
>
>
>
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