so what are the merits of the case ? Which territories has Buganda taken over ?
Kasangwawo
From: "gook makanga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Musaazi: Fw: The Monitor, July 14, 1997 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:51:50 +0000
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Lutimba,
Then your arguments MUST be based on the merits of the case NOT on some speculation of his state of mind or mental capacity!
For you to go outside the case as presented by him is tantamount to your admitting defeat. The "mad" man has taken the better of you on a simple argument.
You either defeat him with facts and mental reasoning or forever shut up. As it is he seems to be the reasonable man and you the mad one!
Rgds
Gook"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X----Original Message Follows----
From: Lutimba Matovu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Musaazi: Fw: The Monitor, July 14, 1997
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
Gook,
What do you call this man's thinking? And you think
someone who writes this is sane?
Mulindwa,
What Buganda expansionism are you talking about?
Why do you think the VP is cooking federo for Buganda?
Long before we even heard of VP Bukenya, the people of
Uganda demanded Federo and Odoki findings are there
for you to read.
This guy is a Butabika case.
LM
--- Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Mwaami Musaazi
>
> For the record I am not against Federalism, I am
> against "A Buganda
> expansionism at the cost of annihilating all
> Northerners under the guise of
> Federalism. I am against The Buganda federalism
> which is being cooked by the
> Uganda Vice president as we speak. Surely that is a
> very simple and direct
> response to your allegation.
>
> Em
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
> l'anarchie"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Musaazi: Fw: The Monitor, July
> 14, 1997
>
>
> > Mr. Fugee, as you can see Obote is just throwing
> rhetoric around without
> > substance, he is now claiming that there was no
> poverty during his tenure
> as
> > President and that Museveni's bush war was > unpopular, yet he was thrown
> out
> > of office. How can he claim that President
> Museveni has not restored
> > anything, when he was the one who destroyed
> everything and he even has the
> > guts to say that the 1995 constitution is not as
> good as the 1962
> > constitution (which he destroyed). If he agrees
> that the 1962 constitution
> > was so good why did he destroy it.
> >
> > The report was obviously biased because he did not
> ask Obote about why he
> > instituted a single party system, if he found it
> suitable then why is it
> not
> > suitable now (what is good for the goose is also
> good for the gander). The
> > reporter should also have quizzed him about the
> lack of democracy in the
> > UPC. He should have asked Obote why he is still
> the President of UPC after > > after 50years, and whether that is democratic and
> whether he it is because
> > there is nobody in the UPC who is good enough to
> replace him. If he cares
> so
> > much for Uganda why does he have to be the flag
> bearer for the UPC, at 80+
> > years (after being president twice), does he not
> fill that it would be
> > better for the country and his party to have a
> younger person take over.
> > Mulindwa likes to boast about the youths in the
> UPC, it appears there will
> > be no vacancies for them for a long time to come.
> They will only be used
> and
> > droped.
> >
> > Netters look at this quote from Obote "I abolished
> institutions which were
> > being used to destabilise the whole nation. But
> from that time, we have
> all
> > learnt our lessons." He say "I" h ow can he
> unilaterally abolish a
> > constitution and this same man (Obote) is talking
> about restoring
> democracy
> > and democratic ideals. Notice how he says "WE HAVE
> ALL LEARNT OUR LESSONS"
> > it is an indication that he knew that he was
> wrong, but of course in pure
> > Obote (and UPC) he refuses to take responsibility
> rather he says "WE HAVE
> > LEARNT OUR LESSONS"
> >
> > How can you abolish instutions that define the
> federal character of a
> > country and then say you did not abolish
> federalism only fools will fall
> for
> > that crap. Now Obote realises his mistakes his now
> coming back to embrace
> > federalism for the sake of votes, FELLOW UGANDANS
> YOU ARE SEEING A CON MAN
> > AT HIS BEST HERE, IF YOU'VE BEEN FOOLED ONCE YOU
> BETTER NOT BE FOOLED ONCE
> > BECAUSE ONCE A LIER ALWAYS ALIER. OBOTE IS A
> BLOODY LIER AND HE 'AINT
> > FOOLING ME.
> >
> > Notice how he uses "I" "I will fight Museveni", I
> will do this, I will do
> > that, he might as well fight for himself, because
> Ugandans don't need him
> to
> > fight for them.
> >
> > Finaly Obote seems to be for federalism "now" (as
> he says he has now
> learnt
> > his lessons), while MULINDWA IS AGAINST
> FEDERALISM, A CASE OF THE SERVANT
> > BEING AT ODDS WITH THE MASTER I GUESS. MULINDWA
> YOU BETTER WATCH WHAT YOU
> > SAY OR YOU MIGHT BE OUT OF UPC. YOUR MASTER LEARNS
> HIS LESSONS VERY FAST
> AND
> > FREQUENTLY IT APPEARS.
> >
> > >From: "The Fugee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ; > >Subject: ugnet_: Musaazi: Fw: The Monitor, July
> 14, 1997
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:42:49 +0200
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "The Fugee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "UPCNet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 8:40 PM
> > >Subject: The Monitor, July 14, 1997
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Obote on mercenaries, Museveni and wars
> > > >
> > > > The Monitor, July 14, 1997
> > > >
> > > > Last week, a delegation of members of the
> Uganda People's Congress
> > >(UPC)
> > > > flew to
> > > > Lusaka, Zambia to consult their exiled party
> president Dr Apollo
> Milton
> > > > Obote. They billed the
> > > > meeting as a turning point both for the UPC
> and for politics in
> Uganda.
> > > >
> > > > Monitor's Staffer, Andrew M. Mwenda flew
> there and Thursday July
> 10
> > > > interviewed the
> > > > twice deposed exiled Ugandan presidentat his
> palatial residence in
> > >Lusaka.
> > > >
> > > > Obote first made a brief statement about
> his views on the mass
> > >media
> > >in
> > > > Uganda
> > > > particularly the press, and an outline of
> Uganda's political
> landscape,
> > >at
> > > > least as he interprets
> > > > it. Readon:-
> > > >
> > > > Obote: I read the Ugandan press. I don't
> listen to Uganda
> > > > Television, Radio Uganda or other radios in
> Uganda. While I am happy
> > >that
> > > > the Ugandan
> > > > press appears to be fighting and defending the
> freedom of the press,
> > > > however, I am
> > > > disappointed that it is largely in support of
> dictatorship to the
> extent
> > > > that it supports the
> > > > suppression of UPC.
> > > >
> > > > UPC must not discuss public affairs by
> convening a public rally;
> it
> > > > must not contest
>
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LM
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