...seems like you guys are attempting to resolve too many issues at once..social/cultural/political issues...your dialogue interests me, however, as someone observing from the outside, inwards. I see your your micro-conflict as a microcosm of broader conflicts taking place in different arenas on the African continent, all revolving around social/cultural/political issues..also represented are the very strong unflexible opinions on both sides, which normally lead to unending wars...i'll advise both camps seperately; Rehema (Buganda camp) vs others (non-Baganda camp).

Firstly to the non-Baganda camp, i want you to understand that the love Baganda have for Kabaka is more symbolic than personal, in other words, Kabaka is loved because of what he represents, which is the whole Kiganda culture and the territory which he has dominion over, when Babaganda see the Kabaka they see a personification of their value system which is a big part of who they are. So the relationship of Baganda to Kabaka is almost spiritual...as non-Baganda you may not appreciate it, but as Ugandans i urge you to either accept it or live it alone. It's like the English and their Queen....of course allegance of a people to cultural structures and norms is also as a result of benefits percieved, experienced, imagined and/or anticipated and normally this state of affairs is of historical proportions.

To the Baganda camp (Rehema)...cool down woman..yes we are Baganda and we love our Kabaka and indeed Buganda/Baganda have benefitted alot from the Kiganda culture. However we are also Ugandans, we as Baganda need to to sometimes step back and realize that we are Baganda in Uganda. I think sometimes we tend to be over zealous in our celebration and/or expression of our Kiganda culture to the point where our Ugandaness is questioned by others. I for one believe that Buganda belongs in Uganda and therefore my cultural pride as a Muganda must be tempered with a recognition that my culture is one of many of whom i must also coexist with and tolerate. The global trend (which is dictated by economics and technology) is globalization, i.e. political/social/economic embracement, breaking down of barriers, and as this phenomenon broadens, the definition of; a Muganda, a Mucholi, a Munyankole or for that matter a black man will become more and more vague. We need to therefore be aware of our environment even as we voice and/or exhibit our cultural pride.


From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ugnet_: Re:  Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:23:32 -0800 (PST)

Oracha:

How am I expossing how "rotten" Uganda is?? Museveni is not buying the Kabaka, nor is the Kabaka begging Museveni. Mu7 is offering his gifts to the Kabaka. Mr. Oracha learn to be a critical thinker! You need to learn the difference between "buying", "begging", and "giving gifts". Keep searching, use those brain cells, the differences are there.

Zakoomu R.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/6/2004 11:45:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To discuss matters of interest to Buganda. That is not beggin'! Museveni offers the gifts, he is not asked. How many political leaders can be offered with gifts?? I told that offering gifts to our Kabaka is a matter of tradition. Kabaka is a traditional leader and yes he will get more and more gifts. Alumwa alumwe!
You are bogus. Empty. Sycophant. You do not love or respect any kabaka at all. Stop fooling around because you are exposing how rotten Uganda has become!
Oli musiro nyo!


oracha


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