...Lisa Toro, when did you begin to care about Buganda and Kabaka? how shameless can you get in your lying? There is no way you can eulogize Obote and Kabaka with the same mouth...Obote and Kabaka are mutually exclusive. There is also no way you can love Kabaka and hate Baganda, which is what most of you UPC sycophants exhibit regularly on this forum. You have to realize that Kabaka is who he is because of Baganda, Kabaka and Baganda are one and the same, if you insult Baganda you insult Kabaka and vice versa. I don't know whether your views are of malicious intent or plain right ignorance.


From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Robert Owor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: With all due respect to Kings, Queens and Royalty.
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 06:50:10 -0000


Edward,

Do not blame the Kabaka, he himself is in the mouth of hayena! Blame the
movement Katikiro put on his heels who is doing all movement job, musevnis
former roommate or friend from Dar university. The movement Katikiro has
more power than the King himself!. The Kingdom is just in chaos as the whole
country is.


Toro

----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:27 AM
Subject: ugnet_: Re: With all due respect to Kings, Queens and Royalty.


> And I will say Kabaka Mutebi is a man with out vision, no plan and no
> ethics. Only the departure of Museveni will allow us to know exactly how
> much harm has been done by this king on this kingdom.
>
> But again I might be wrong and you might be right.
>
> Em
>
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Owor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: With all due respect to Kings, Queens and Royalty.
>
>
> > With all due respect to the 52 clans of Buganda and the the Kabaka and
> > also the the Queen of England, I think the evolution of democracy and
> > History cannot allow a return to absolute monarchy.
> >
> > Kabaka Mutesa I for instance unfamiliar with any other methods of proof
> > ordered a page to stand and be shot dead in order to ascertain whether
> > the gun offered him by John Hannington Speke really could kill a person;
> > as if the proof could not have been established by shooting a dog or a
> > cow.
> >
> > We cannot rely therefore on the wisdom of the Kabaka or any other
> > Monarch as if they were God. What we can do is honor our cultures with
> > reason and pay our due respects to our monarchs. A return to absolute
> > power by monarchs is to invite yet another french revolution in our own
> > midst.
> >
> > Having said that, I think Kabaka Mutebi is a man I admire.
> >
> > Robert Steven Owor.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 12:14 AM >>>
> > Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in Buganda
> > today,
> > Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni?
> >
> > Em
> >
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @
> > Mulindwa
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yaobang,
> > >
> > > Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want
> > Kabaka
> > > Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?. You cannot summon a
> > Kabaka
> > as
> > > per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by
> > Baganda?
> > > Its because while he was a prime Minister, he "summoned" or invited
> > Kabaka
> > > to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who
> > knew
> > > it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \" gun
> > point"
> > > by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So
> > long
> > > as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time
> > by
> > the
> > > ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our
> > > culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no
> > matter
> > > what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who
> > belong
> > to
> > > the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated
> > > cultural powers. Watch with your eyes, we shall be there.
> > >
> > > Ssenyange
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > > >From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> > > >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:32:34 +0000
> > > >
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