ugnet_: Re: With all due respect to Kings, Queens and Royalty.

[Rehema Mukooza]

Lisa:

 

You are right that we should never blame the Kabaka.  Take him out of the political chaos of Uganda.  We have had dictators after dictators during the Kabaka's exile.  Without federalism we are to hear more dictators after the next even with the presence of Kabaka on Buganda soil.  Ugandans have messed up, it is not the Kabaka.

 

However, putting blame on a person who has nothing to do with the events taking place in Uganda is not sensible.  I'm talking about the Buganda Katikkiro who now seems to have taken up Kabaka's spot with your empty criticism!  The Katikkiro does not belong to a political party.  Here we go again, I have to tell you guys that Katikkiro is apolitical.  Have you ever seen him running for elections or on a ballot paper??  This is how uncritical of thinkers you are!  <<"Katikkiro Ssemwogerere is running on a Mov't ticket">> -- hahahaha, this is how unfocused these folks are!

 

I'm not very sure about your words that the Katikkiro was Museveni's roommate or friend from Dar University.  Those can easily be made up by any fool who wants to present him/herself as having a great deal of information about the Katikkiro.  I don't know if Lisa you are critically thinking!  How can a "friend" not be so friendly with a friend??  Buganda knows that Mu7 is not her friend.  That's for a fact!  I'm sure our Katikkiro knows that.  Maybe you are one of those people who really believe that Buganda is not aware of her "friends".  I'd say that you can stay in dreamland, but we have got to live in reality.

 

Lisa, you said: "The movement Katikiro has more power than the King himself!"  Hahaha, this is how silly and unfocused you can get!  I will not help you out in your ignorance, I'll just leave you the way you are, unless if you ask for education about the relationship between the Kabaka and the Katikkiro.  That is when I will educate you about this issue.

 

Yes, the Kingdom is just in chaos as the whole country is.  Finally we are getting somewhere, though we are not actually there yet.  I'm impressed with your observation on the chaos taking place in the kingdom.  Like I've said before, Museveni is Buganda's enemy and yet the interactions between both can not be avoided.  Take a look at the Capital City strategy; Buganda's capital city is Uganda's capital city.  What do you think a critical thinker would do in such a situation??  Critical thinkers would just go ahead and apply survival 101; work with the enemy whether you like it or not.  That is what Buganda is doing, we are working with someone whom we know has killed us and is very capable of killing us if we don't cooperate.  The laws of survival are in place!  I don't know if this is new to you or not, but critical thinkers would have figured this one out a long time ago. 

 

I wonder if the LRA really ever thought about sparing Acholi region from all this blood.  If they had really taken this into consideration, I'm sure they would not have started their war in the Acholi region.  Museveni started his war in Luweero and the rest is history.  Buganda was bleeding like I don't know what!  I think that Kony/LRA should please take its battles out of Acholi, Lango just for the sake of saving lives.  I understand the situation of civilians getting caught in-between but Museveni is going to continue killing innocent people if Kony/LRA does not take his war out of Uganda.  Museveni is a murderer, just like Obote.  Don't be fooled!  The only difference between them is the WAY they apply their SAME tactics.

 

I pray that Kony/LRA applies survival 101 in order to save Acholi lives.  They should do what Buganda is doing right now; work with the enemy whether they like it or not.  There is no other choice unless if Acholi or Buganda want to act as human sacrifices.  Buganda can not let itself become human sacrifices ever again, Luweero taught us.  I hope Acholi does the same.  Life is very very important to critical thinkers.  It saddens me whenever I hear reports of massacres taking place in the north.  Let's keep the debate going...

 

Zakoomu R.

 

Lisa Toro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Edward,

Do not blame the Kabaka, he himself is in the mouth of hayena! Blame the
movement Katikiro put on his heels who is doing all movement job, musevnis
former roommate or friend from Dar university. The movement Katikiro has
more power than the King himself!. The Kingdom is just in chaos as the whole
country is.

Toro

----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:27 AM
Subject: ugnet_: Re: With all due respect to Kings, Queens and Royalty.


> And I will say Kabaka Mutebi is a man with out vision, no plan and no
> ethics. Only the departure of Museveni will allow us to know exactly how
> much harm has been done by this king on this kingdom.
>
> But again I might be wrong and you might be right.
>
> Em
>
>
> The Mulind was Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Owor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: With all due respect to Kings, Queens and Royalty.
>
>
> > With all due respect to the 52 clans of Buganda and the the Kabaka and
> > also the the Queen of England, I think the evolution of democracy and
> > History cannot allow a return to absolute monarchy.
> >
> > Kabaka Mutesa I for instance unfamiliar with any other methods of proof
> > ordered a page to stand and be shot dead in order to ascertain whether
> > the gun offered him by John Hannington Speke really could kill a person;
> > as if the proof could not have been established by shooting a dog or a
> > cow.
> >
> > We cannot rely therefore on the wisdom of the Kabaka or any other
> > Monarch as if they were God. What we can do is honor our cultures with
> > reason and pay our due respects to our monarchs. A return to absolute
> > power by monarchs is to invite yet another french revolution in our own
> > midst.
> >
> > Having said that, I think Kabaka Mutebi is a man I admire.
> >
> > Robert Steven Owor.
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 12:14 AM >>>
> > Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in Buganda
> > today,
> > Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni?
> >
> > Em
> >
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"< BR>> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @
> > Mulindwa
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yaobang,
> > >
> > > Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want
> > Kabaka
> > > Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?. You cannot summon a
> > Kabaka
> > as
> > > per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by
> > Baganda?
> > > Its because while he was a prime Minister, he "summoned" or invited
> > Kabaka
> > > to meet him ( Ben) at his resid ence or office. Ben was a Muganda who
> > knew
> > > it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \" gun
> > point"
> > > by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So
> > long
> > > as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time
> > by
> > the
> > > ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our
> > > culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no
> > matter
> > > what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who
> > belong
> > to
> > > the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated
> > > cultural powers. Watch with your eyes, we shall be there.
> > >
> > > Ssenyange
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > > >Fr om: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
> > > >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:32:34 +0000

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