It seem that it has now become customary to brand any Southerner
who asks uncomfortable or pointed questions about Kony to be branded a hater
of Northerners.
The fact is that at least 150,000 people, mostly
Baganda, perished pre-maturely in extra-judicially killings in about five
years during Obote II. Their deaths were at the hands of Obote's army which
had a preponderance of Northerners, mostly Langi, Acholi and perhaps
Iteso. (Remember how that monster used to say at public rallies to
political opponents: show me your generals?).
Facts are facts and there in hate in stating them.
Recently, Uganda missed a golden opportunity for national healing, when
powerful Acholi prevented some Acholi Elders in offering an apology to
the Baganda for the role their sons had in causing them untold suffering. Such
an apology, if it come in the future, it will likely be seen as begrudging, if
not outright insincere.
The current war in Northern Uganda has, no doubt, resulted in the loss of
many innocent lives and caused lots of suffering. Joseph Kony the
author of the vast bulk of these atrocities and crimes against
humanity, and his men hail from Northern Uganda, most likely Acholi or
Lango. The government of Sudan is his partner in crime as it cheerfully
provides these killers with arms for his carnage and refuge from justice.
Unless one was born yesterday, they will have noted and/or inferred that
Kony has many supporters on this very forum, many of whom also hail from
Northern Uganda. Just read the glee with which any rebel 'victory'
is celebrated on this net.
Nonetheless, it is my opinion Kony or Lakwena before him, did not start
because of Luweero.
Sometime ago I asked of Kony's supporters how they would like to
live under a Kony regime. Strangely, the silence on the issue was defeaning,
but as I recall, at least one of these people branded me a Museveni supporter
or an ESO operative, etc. Not that I care: I am as unimpressed by
sophistry as I despise it.
We still remember Luweero, and we must never forget it, even as we turn the
other cheek, to call for an end for the war in the North through peaceful
means.
It would be helpful if Ugandans who hail from Northern Uganda unequivocally
and publicly dissociated themselves from Kony, if only to clear the air.
----Original Message Follows----
From: okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ugnet_: RE: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote
\ Yaobang @ Mulindwa
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:13:30 -0500 (EST)
"I wonder what could lead any straight thinking person into
supporting the UPC. UPC has crippled the
central-internal-organizations of W.Nile, Acholi, Lango, Teso
regions. With Obote's unitary system, how could they even think of
getting organized?? All that Obote taught them was to "use the govt
structures in place"-unitarism, to govern themselves. Obote/UPC
seriously rapped their internal regional organizations in their infancy
period. Obote is an enemy of Freedom! He took away these
region's freedom to regional self-determination." (Rehema Mukooza?)
Miss/Mrs/Mr. (Mukooza?),
Your tirade against UPC and its leader, Dr. Obote, is beginning to
appear a mental case. You have written a lot on issues UPC, Acholi, Lango,
Teso, and W. Nile. And in most of your writings, you blame them for their
woes, you castigate them, bellittle them, and conclude most of their sons and
daughters are not "critical thinkers", hence the problems of war and genocide
currnetly being conducted in their region. I do not know what is deceiving you
that you are a great thinker, or critical thinker for that matter. To me, what
you claim to be critical thinking on your part is nothing but HATRED of the
people of the North and NorhtEast. It is not difficult to locate this hatred
in your writings, which you have so far done quite a great deal of.
If you are not aware of, the war in the North has a history of its
origin, and that history of its origin was sealed in 1980 when the current
president of the country, Yoweri Museveni, took to the bush of Lwero with
ulterior motive against Northern and NorthEastern people of Uganda, but
claimed falsely that he was going to the bush because of a supposedly rigged
election, the election of 1980. He therefore launched a five year guerilla war
that we all know its outcomes. We have for many years now therefore, talked a
lot about the genocide in Lwero; we have conducted and are still conducting
another in the North and NorthEast of the country in the name of genocide in
Lwero. We have seen many children die in the name of Lwero; we have killed
many innocent mothers and fathers because of Lwero. But what we have not done
so far, is seek the perpetrators of the genocide of Lwero. It is certainly not
the children we are currently killing who conducted that genocide of Lwe ro;
it is n
ot even
the innocent mothers and fathers we are killing,
including those we have killed in the name Lwero, who conducted the genocide
in Lwero. By killing these children, innocent mothers, and innocent fathers we
are not exercising caution enough to nurture harmony that we so much are
deprived of far too long.
Uganda is a country of all Ugandans, it must remain so, as one
country, one people with one future. Your constant call for federalism is
premature. There are still many political issues that need be settled before
Ugandans as a people sit down in the name of the country, to concretely plot
the way forward. The "central-internal-organizations of W.Nile, Acholi, Lango,
Teso regions." therefore was not destroyed by UPC and its leader, Dr. Obote.
But that is a topic for discussion sometime later, not now.
What I think we should look for now is peace and harmony.
Regards,
Ocii
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
Ed:
Yes, my question has been answered. Ugandacom is another
UPC mouthpiece alongside upcnet. However, I'm going to stay close
to this enemy and find out what he (UPC) thinks. No-one or anybody
should be denied information ~ states ugandacom web page. I'm
definitely going to suck this information in like a baby sucking on milk.
I wonder what could lead any straight thinking person into
supporting the UPC. UPC has crippled the
central-internal-organizations of W.Nile, Acholi, Lango, Teso
regions. With Obote's unitary system, how could they even think of
getting organized?? All that Obote taught them was to "use the govt
structures in place"-unitarism, to govern themselves. Obote/UPC
seriously rapped their internal regional organizations in their infancy
period. Obote is an enemy of Freedom! He took away these
region's freedom to regional self-determination.
This reminds me of what a fellow member here, Lisa
said. She said that "they" are to 'use the central govt structures
in place to present their ideas to Uganda as the whole Uganda!' She
even told me that they are not 'hiding anything!' Now, I want all
members to tell me if Lisa is thinking straight. The present govt
structures have not worked for any of these disorganized
regions. These regions have not been declared as disaster areas for
18yrs now! I think these regions need to start on working towards
organizing themselves for the good of themselves.
Now, let me get on this thug-Mu7. Museveni is seriously
disorganizing Ankole internal regional organization. He is doing
what Obote did, and that is to kill regional self-determination and use the
"govt structures in place" to present their (Ankole) views to all Ugandans as
Uganda. What he shortsightedly overlooks is that a future leader
who comes from lets say Acholi, can easily manipulate the "govt structures in
place" and unleash what he has unleashed on the northern region. De
Javu! He sounds and acts like Obote! Can you tell the
difference?? Uganda needs to start!
Zakoomu R.
Ed Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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Rehema
Has your question been answered now whether Ugandacom was UPC
mouthpiece?
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Mulindwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Ugandacom] Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @
Mulindwa
Zakoomu
If you are serious with your statements, make one
posting in this forum, about the problems facing our nation without praising
The Buganda King, a King installed by Museveni (a Rwandese) and terrorizing
Obote, a Uganda former twice elected President.
They are very strange indeed.
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Rehema Mukooza
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:10 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang
@ Mulindwa
Mulindwa:
Come on, man! Be a critical
thinker! President Museveni is the leader of Uganda, including
Buganda as a region of Uganda. You can not compare the two leaders;
one is a traditional leader, and the other is a political leader.
I want you to rephrase your questions in a very intelligent,
informed, manner. Make your questions look more like this;
1). Who has more traditional support in Buganda
(Museveni or Kabaka) today?? =
My answer is: The Kabaka of Buganda.
2). Who has more political support in Buganda (Museveni
or Kabaka) today?? =
My answer is: The President of Uganda.
I want you to make a difference between Feudalism and Federalism
(democracy). Act like a critical thinker, if you are one!
Zakoomu R.
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in
Buganda today,
Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni?
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: "ssenya nyange"
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @
Mulindwa
>
>
> Yaobang,
>
> Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want
Kabaka
> Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?. You cannot summon
a Kabaka
as
> per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated
by Baganda?
> Its because while he was a prime Minister, he "summoned" or
invited Kabaka
> to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a
Muganda who knew
> it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom
\" gun
point"
> by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama
etc. So
long
> as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at
any time by
the
> ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is
against our
> culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders (
Ssabataka) no matter
> what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda
who belong
to
> the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT
deligated
> cultural powers. Watch with your eyes, we shall be there.
>
> Ssenyange
> -------------------
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