Adam Dada, Talk for yourself,
I grew up with five other tribes brought up and educated in our House! Perhaps if my parents had more we would have even been many. Infact we are all brothers and sister. That said there, are bad elements everywhere in the world of all shapes and colours. Bird of the same feathers flock together.You tell me which district in Uganda does not have a court or a prision? or any place in the world without a court or a prision?. If you live a round good people your see , learn and practice good things and vice versa. Again i said i am not talking about politics of Obote, Kabaka, Langis, Acholis etc etc. Becasue if we start that we then need we examine who did what, where and when or with whom etc, etc THEN UP TO NOW. Lets not pretend everyone else in Uganda has been sleeping and Obote alone did everything alone. Our small country is too big for one person to determine its destiny, it is an insult on Ugandans that, they stupid etc etc.besides to me it shows that the person saying it does not have an indepth knowledge/ understanding or at best is just being bias, intolerant and is not prepared listen to other people opinions. NRA TYPE THEY KNOW IT ALL. Thank you. TORO ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - Can the North survive withouttheSouth?? > Lisa Toro, > > I don't think we, as notherners, are the right people to talk about kindness > and friendship, nor do we even have the moral authority to do so. The > Baganda have shown us friendship and kindness over the centuries by allowing > us to live among themselves and almost assimilating (ask Mulindwa), to the > extent of even voting Obote to power in I962. How have they been repaid by > us? By abolishing the King and Kingdom, by murdering them in Luwero and > constantly persecuting them. We really have to work hard to justfy those > words you have used "kindness and friendship", and at least have some > remorse for once for our actions against the Baganda, instead of trying to > give them lectures about those virtues.They have not gained anything at all > from being kind and friendly to us. They are unlikely to accept a similar > situation in the future. Mine is a request to my kin and keith, including > you Lisa, to abandon that baseless arrongance and own up to the mistakes and > atrocities, and realize we have to learn alot from the Baganda not > vice-versa. Only then can we forge a new beginning. > Adam > > >From: "Lisa Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - Can the North survive > >without theSouth?? > >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:50:14 +0100 > > > >emmanuel musaazi, > > > >Try the language of the cultured!, not the NRM opppressive and dictatorial > >style. Ugandans learn things in Buganda culture and indeed other cultures > >through kindness, friendship and understanding shown to them not the type > >of > >arrogance you showing here. > > > >Toro > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:55 PM > >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Re: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - Can the North survive > >without theSouth?? > > > > > > > ..to all those who are "buganda" challenged vis a vis buganda culture > >and > > > customs, and who feel they need to be educated, please check this > >website; > > > http://www.buganda.com. > > > > > > > > > >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Re: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - Can the North > >survive > > > >without the South?? > > > >Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:31:05 +0000 > > > > > > > >Ms Mukooza, > > > > > > > >I hate wiseacres like Odwe. Instead of requesting to be educated, the y > > > >display their ignorance about an issue by pretending to know more about > > > >that culture than the people who belong to it. There is nothing > >backward > > > >about the three phrases he refers to and therefore there is nothing > >wise > > > >about resisting them. > > > > > > > >I'm in no mood now to start explaining to him the whole background of > >those > > > >phrases, but I'd just like to point out to him that 'yedira ki' (i.e. > >the > > > >clans) is the basis on which the whole Kiganda culture is built on. The > > > >clans are the means through which a Muganda can identify him/herself. > >There > > > >are several reasons why one has to know which clan he/she belongs to. > >For > > > >more information he should ask a Muganda near him (but he has to be a > >real > > > >Muganda). > > > > > > > >Kasangwawo > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>Subject: ugnet_: Re: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - Can the North survive > > > >>without the South?? > > > >>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) > > > >> > > > >>Odwe: > > > >> > > > >>Hahahaha, do not make me laugh! "Oyo yedira ki, mwana wani, oyo > > > >>munamawanga etc" is practiced by Northerners. Recently these > >Northerners > > > >>refused to apologize to Luwero people for the atrocities they > >committed > >on > > > >>them. The reason was because they are Baganda. These Northerners > > > >>apologized or burried the differences between themselves (Acholi, > >Langi, > > > >>Teso) but they could not do the same to themselves. You see with such > > > >>kind of discrimination, do you really think Museveni is stupid?? He > >can > > > >>deal with that nonsense real well and manipulate it to his own > >advantage. > > > >> > > > >>Uganda has tribes and tribal identity is very alive. We have Odwe who > > > >>identifies himself as a Northerner. Why do Northerners want to fit in > >in > > > >>Buganda, anyway?? May I ask. Why don't they like Southerners in the > > > >>North and yet they want to come to the South?? This is the kind of > > > >>nonsense and sillyness many Northerners feed on. They are indeed > >living > > > >>in a fantasia. They panic whenever a Southerner buys land in the > >North. > > > >>Why?? Because our brothers and sisters in the North descriminate > >against > > > >>tribes. That's how they've have been in the past and I don't see them > > > >>changing in the near future either. > > > >> > > > >>Edward is not what he is presenting himself to be to us. That's the > > > >>truth. Odwe, you can make up stories of how you've meet this man and > >I > > > >>don't give an ear to such lies. Any fool can come here and try to > > > >>convience me how he/she has met "Mulindwa". And how "Mulindwa" never > > > >>asked for his/her tribe. I have had a different encounter of > >"Mulindwa" > > > >>contrally to yours. The first thing Edward ever asked me on this > >forum > > > >>when I was new as my tribe. He automatically tribalized me to the > >Kiganda > > > >>tribe. That's why I can not believe this lie of yours. I am a > >critical > > > >>thinker. This nonsense can not work with me. Try a new lie. > > > >> > > > >>Uganda is diverse. We have to accept that. More Northerners are > >moving > > > >>Southwards than Southerners moving North, in times of peace. Why?? > >This > > > >>is the kind of stupidity I will not tolerate. Can the North survive > > > >>without the South?? You need to have sense in your brain cells. > >Uganda > > > >>is tired of liars like you, that is why this country is stil > >backwards. > > > >> > > > >>Zakoomu M. > > > >> > > > >>joseph odwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>Members > > > >> > > > >>There are many other important things we should be focusing on instead > >of > > > >>allowing ourselves to be diverted by the itellectually lost bunch, who > > > >>have opted for such silyness in the absence of sound keen reasoning to > >any > > > >>inteligent questions and points put to them. The questions and points > >to > > > >>which they solicite by their obvious hunger for knowledge depicted > >through > > > >>their utterances here on the forum. I happened to meet Mr. Mulindwa > >back > > > >>in 2000 when he visted London Ontario from his base then in Toronto. > > > >>Belief me he is what Uganda needs. He is one of those who have seen > >the > > > >>wisdom in resisting the "oyo yedira ki, mwana wani, oyo munamawanga > >etc" > > > >>bakward thinking that some regretably share to this day. In fact I > >don't > > > >>remember Mulindwa having asked me as the tribe I belong to. After > >being > > > >>introduced to him as a fellow Ugandan we got right into normal > >coversation > > > >>that lead us to the brain storming about our country's herples > >situation. > > > >>I must also admit that during the discusi > > > >> on he > > > >> opened my mind so much as to what we could do as an individual and > >as > >a > > > >>group to futher the cause of our motherland. Let's stop dweling on > > > >>individualistic interests that tend divid our people along > >un-productive > > > >>ventures. Anyone who advocates for any form of protectionistic > >approach > >to > > > >>any issue would only be admitting the weakness of such product or in > >this > > > >>case culture to trive by itself along side others. Fellow Ugandans who > > > >>have sturbonly chosen to live in the oudated thinking and mindset > >which > > > >>imprisons their productive reasoning capacity would rather hold the > >whole > > > >>country in captivity than think anew. To those I say open your mind > >for > > > >>new ideas and thinking please. Uganda can entertain divisionitic > >gosips > > > >>any longer. We have an tremendous task to free our motherland at hand. > >To > > > >>whose side are playing on such thinking and waste of energy or you'r > >at > > > >>work? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >From: "aokwong-okumu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke? > > > >> >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 00:08:37 -0500 > > > >> > > > > >> >HI, > > > >> > Mulindwa is MULINDWA, alive in the same skin I have known him in > > > >>since September 1989 when I came to Toronto and met him. He has grown > >day > > > >>and night, intellectually since the advent the world wide web. The > > > >>unfortunate thing about UGANDANS is that they think and believe that > >one > > > >>is educated only and only if he went into a class or lecture hall. It > >is > >a > > > >>myopic belief, which those who have it and their classroom/lecture > >hall > > > >>education think they have a right and only them can > > > >>comment/analyse/prescribe to Uganda's political chaos. My brother > >Mulindwa > > > >>gooo on, make their blood boil with your incisive questions and > >commentry. > > > >>May Allah sharpen your mind and make it more potent!. > > > >> > > > > >> >Aloysius. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Tired of 56k? 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