From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:43:17 -0400
Kasangwawo
Does that include the entire un-developed Non-Southerners, that the federalists are trying to favor?
Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:25 AM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> Great ! I hope you'll remember this information in future.
> I've always been for the right to freedom of speech. Whether you can write
> on behalf of all Ugandans abroad is another matter.
>
> Kasangwawo
>
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> >Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:31:01 -0400
> >
> >Mwaami Kasangwawo
> >
> >Thank you for your inside information for I did not know all that
history.
> >And I am saying that Obote and all past people have messed up our nation,
> >but we have political partys in Uganda, can you promise me that you will
be
> >on my side to reclaim their rights to free speech? Kasangwawo can I send
an
> >article to a Uganda paper that we, as Ugandans abroad, need political
> >partys
> >opened and I have your un divided support?
> >
> >Em
> >Toronto
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:48 PM
> >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> >
> >
> > > Not only your computer is going awol but your brain too. For you, of
all
> > > people, to complain about someone talking about southerners when you
> >bombard
> > > us daily nonsense about northerners this, northerners that, is to be
> > > dishonest. But let me assure you that it is not only in the south
where
> > > your party UPC is hated, people in places like West Nile are not so
> >eager
> >on
> > > it either, not after what the UPC government did to them during
Obote's
> > > regime.
> > >
> > > Your statement that UPC 'was not only created but adorned by
> >Southerners'
> >is
> > > a bit farfetched if not an outright lie. To equate the Uganda National
> > > Congress with the UPC is just a fig of your imagination and is a
> >distortion
> > > of the history of Uganda. While the Uganda National Congress was
founded
> >by
> > > Abu Mayanja and I.K.Musaazi (both Baganda) in 1952, it was Obote (a
> >Langi)
> > > who organized a Lango branch of the so-called Uganda National Party
> >which
> > > fused with a residual group of the United National Congress in 1959 to
> >form
> > > the UPC, a party whose main support came from outside Buganda. Fact
is,
> >the
> > > UPC was NEVER created by southerners. Stop your lies !
> > >
> > > Kasangwawo
> > >
> > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:40:07 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Sorry my computer is going awo
> > > >
> > > >....................................4) The only way Musaazi can fight
> >UPC
> > > >is
> > > >by threatening an entire section of our nation. Musaazi wants
Ugandans
> >to
> > > >know what he knows that Southern Ugandans do not, that UPC has
nothing
> >to
> > > >offer and their entire survival or even whole being alive is due to
> > > >Museveni
> > > >and as soon as Museveni leaves office, Southern Ugandans will be
> >eliminated
> > > >by UPC.
> > > >
> > > >No one can refute those true words from Musaazi, but an
un-intellectual
> > > >like
> > > >me will ask only two questions, Using Musaazi's demarcation of
Uganda,
> > > >Southern and Northern, where does UPC have a more support? And how
can
> > > >Museveni protect Southern Ugandans from UPC a party that was not only
> > > >created but adorned by Southerners?
> > > >
> > > >Musaazi is from Buganda, a now known as a developed nation. So he
does
> >not
> > > >have to respond to this or to any of his gullible.
> > > >
> > > >They are strange in-deed
> > > >
> > > >Em
> > > >Toronto
> > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:21 PM
> > > >Subject: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This discussion I swear is not mine and I am not going to touch
it.
> >But
> > > >this
> > > > > paragraph interested me very much and I quote
> > > > >
> > > > > "Finally, to all you Baganda and southerners who think that
Museveni
> >is
> > > >bad
> > > > > for Uganda, wait 'till the likes of Kipenji ever get into power in
> > > >Uganda
> > > > > then you will know what bad really is...if you pay kin attention
to
> > > >their
> > > > > postings you get a sneak preview of what to expect if they ever
got
> > > >power
> > > >in
> > > > > Uganda, that will be the day you will all pray for Museveni to
come
> > > >back.
> > > > > UPC has NOTHING to offer Uganda and Ugandans except pain, poverty
> >and
> > > > > disunity, that has been their record and that will always be their
> > > >record."
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether what Musaazi states is a fact or not is not my issue, I
will
> > > >leave
> > > > > that with the intellectuals, but my beef is to wonder why we as
> >Ugandans
> > > > > have turned the politics of our nation to "a fear politics". For
the
> > > > > following reasons:-
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Museveni stated that we killed the masses in order to make the
> > > >population
> > > > > hate the UPC government. (Was that the only way Museveni could get
> >into
> > > > > power by killing the population in the day and claiming to be NRM
at
> > > >night?)
> > > > > 2) Museveni comes into power and he states that Uganda's problem
is
> > > >North
> > > >vs
> > > > > South, and I am seeing Musaazi now pulling in the South than
> >Buganda,
> > > >But
> > > > > after all these years of NRM in power, do we actually believe that
> > > >Uganda's
> > > > > problem is North Vs South?
> > > > > 3) For the sake of this discussion I am going to take Musaazi's
> > > >statement
> > > >at
> > > > > face value, as a fact. UPC and Northerns are enemies of Southern
> >Uganda.
> > > >Let
> > > > > me accept that and take Musaazi's warning serious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then the question must follow, Museveni has been in power for now
20
> > > >years,
> > > > > if Musaazi knew all along that it is only Museveni who can save
> >Southern
> > > > > Uganda from Northerners, what has he done about that situation?
For
> > > >Museveni
> > > > > will leave office either way, he will be overthrown or he will die
> >of
> > > >age
> > > >if
> > > > > not heart attack. And he will not be a president.
> > > > >
> > > > > One can not help but ask what Musaazi expects us to do then, that
> >the
> > > >only
> > > > > savior Southerners have will have gone !!
> > > > >
> > > > > If our nation ever needed God it is now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Em
> > > > > Toronto
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > > > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > > > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:04 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > ..Kipenji, i have just about had enough of your stupidity and
> > > >ethonophobic
> > > > > > outbursts...your prejudice and hatred of Baganda is of genocidal
> > > > > > proportions...i would go as far as warn Baganda to keep away
from
> >this
> > > >man
> > > > > > (Kipenji)...these are poeple who, if they had the means and
> > > >wherewithal,
> > > > > > would eradicate Baganda from the face of this earth Rwanda
style,
> >and
> > > >we
> > > > > sit
> > > > > > and wonder how genocide occured in Rwanda. I wonder where Mr.
> >Oracha
> > > >is
> > > > > when
> > > > > > Kipenji is unleashing his ethnic venom against Baganda...well
they
> >say
> > > > > > silence is a sign of consent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ..Kipenji, what exactly is your quarrell with Baganda...why this
> > > >hatred
> > > >of
> > > > > > Bugunda and Baganda...have Baganda ever invaded your tribal area
> >and
> > > > > killed
> > > > > > your kingsmen as you northerners have done to us on several
> > > > > occasions..most
> > > > > > of you have property and family in Buganda, have they ever been
> > > >attacked
> > > > > > and\or mistreated on account of being northerners. Even now that
> >you
> > > >guys
> > > > > > are out of power and given the attrocities commited by your
> >tribesmen
> > > > > > against Baganda during OboteII, one would have expected
> >retribution
> >on
> > > >a
> > > > > > large scale from Baganda (as your Kingsmen did to Idi Amin's
> >kingsmen
> > > >and
> > > > > > Baganda, during OboteII), but no, Baganda have not descended to
> >such
> > > > > babaric
> > > > > > levels. Anytime your kingsmen get into power, they immediately
> >descend
> > > >on
> > > > > > Baganda and other southerners, killing our people, raping our
> >women
> > > >and
> > > > > > destroying our property. To me that is the highest display of
> > > >inferiority
> > > > > > complex, even obote had to marry a Muganda in order to feel like
a
> > > >human
> > > > > > being. This love/hate relationship is bourne out of the fact
that
> >you
> > > > > > northerners hate and envy us but realize (unfortunately) that
you
> > > >can't
> > > >do
> > > > > > without us...and unfortunately that is a situation you guys have
> >put
> > > > > > yourselves into...it doesn't have to be that way, as Mr. Dada
has
> >been
> > > > > > trying to drum into your thick skull. The more you write the
more
> >you
> > > > > expose
> > > > > > the jealousy you have for Baganda (and southerners in general)
> >eating
> > > >deep
> > > > > > into your soul...i'm sorry for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you think Baganda are "inferior" and not as sophisticated as
we
> > > >make
> > > > > out,
> > > > > > the i suggest you join and support the federalists, that we you
> >and
> > > >your
> > > > > > "more developed" tribesmen can live Buganda, and go to your area
> >and
> > > >be
> > > > > > spared the "inferior" culture and habbits of Baganda. Your
> >inferiority
> > > > > > complex, and other petty grudges you have against Buganda will
be
> > > >better
> > > > > > soothed if you had less contact with Baganda...don't you agree
Mr.
> > > >Kipenji
> > > > > > and it is only federalism that can enable that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What amaizes me about these fellows is that in their hate
> >mongering
> > > > > against
> > > > > > Baganda, they forget (albeit conveniently) that it was because
of
> > > >Kabaka
> > > > > > Mutebi's (and Buganda) support of Obote and his UPC, that Obote
> >won
> > > > > Uganda's
> > > > > > maiden elections and became Prime minister, Obote has never (and
> >will
> > > > > never)
> > > > > > won an election since, because he betrayed the trust of Buganda.
> >Obote
> > > >was
> > > > > > the first to play the ethnic card in Ugandan politics and it has
> >been
> > > >down
> > > > > > hill for UPC ever since...and listening to the likes of Kipeji
and
> > > > > > "Mulindwa" one clearly sees, that UPC has never learnt it's
lesson
> >and
> > > >is
> > > > > > therefore perpetually doomed to failure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, to all you Baganda and southerners who think that
> >Museveni
> >is
> > > >bad
> > > > > > for Uganda, wait 'till the likes of Kipenji ever get into power
in
> > > >Uganda
> > > > > > then you will know what bad really is...if you pay kin attention
> >to
> > > >their
> > > > > > postings you get a sneak preview of what to expect if they ever
> >got
> > > >power
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Uganda, that will be the day you will all pray for Museveni to
> >come
> > > >back.
> > > > > > UPC has NOTHING to offer Uganda and Ugandans except pain,
poverty
> >and
> > > > > > disunity, that has been their record and that will always be
their
> > > >record.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:09:12 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >It is amazing that so called developed and therefore
> >sophisticated
> > > > > > >people,the like of you and your purpoted cohorts still expect
to
> >be
> > > > > > >spoon fed with knowledge.
> > > > > > >Are you not by inference just proving that you and your ilk are
> >not
> > > >only
> > > > > > >mundane but also anachronistic?
> > > > > > >Development can not be defined by parameters that are not
robust
> >and
> > > > > > >that cannot be verifiable in other settings.
> > > > > > >What Buganda had was only administrative structures that showed
> >the
> > > > > strata
> > > > > > >into which the rulers could relate with the ordinary folks in
> >their
> > > > > areas.
> > > > > > >This same arrangement existed in areas other than Buganda but
had
> >a
> > > > > > >different nomenclature which unfortunately for you with your
Ntu
> > > >syntax
> > > > > > >innebriation believes since you do not understand it then it
> >could
> >as
> > > > > well
> > > > > > >not exist.
> > > > > > >If you look at the parameters that are internationally used as
a
> > > >gauge
> > > >of
> > > > > > >development,can you tell me what the Infant Mortality rate in
> >Buganda
> > > > > > >is?,the Maternal mortality rate?,the life expectancy in Buganda
> >,the
> > > > > amount
> > > > > > >of disposal income available to these so called developed
people
> > > > > > >and area you keep jabbering about just as a few examples?.
> > > > > > >If you realise that today unlike in the 1950s and 1960s Baganda
> >are
> > > >the
> > > > > > >highest consumers of Mwogo and all that they used to refer to
as
> >not
> > > > > > >food,do you still not feel ashamed to utter these nonsenses
about
> > > >being
> > > > > > >developed and sophisticated?.
> > > > > > >If you also recall that the establishment at the center of your
> > > >purported
> > > > > > >development went on to urge their young girls and women to go
> >sell
> > > >their
> > > > > > >hardware in Europe and wherever inorder to bring income to
> >them,does
> > > >that
> > > > > > >pass for being developed and sophisticated?
> > > > > > >Any society that has no respect for women in their midst and
uses
> > > >them
> > > > > > >as entertainers aka Ebimansulo,needs to rethink definitions of
> >what
> > > >it
> > > > > > >calls development and sophistication.
> > > > > > >Have you ever heard of these litany of societal miscues
anywhere
> >from
> > > > > those
> > > > > > >areas you believe in your mind are not developed?.
> > > > > > >You are putting yourselves in coccoons of a past that has
become
> >a
> > > >mirage
> > > > > > >and thus accepting to be used as political condoms and that is
> >why
> > > >today
> > > > > > >Mu7 is re-sterilizing you for further use in his quest for more
> >time
> > > >in
> > > > > > >Office since he knows very well how gullible you people can be
> >when
> > > >it
> > > > > > >comes to thinking you can re-invent a wheel.To live is to
Change.
> > > > > > >From my opening statement,I am not going to spoon feed you on
> >where
> > > > > > >Mutebbi said what I quoted because as developed and
sophisticated
> > > >people
> > > > > > >you need to exercise your intellect and take advantage of the
> >super
> > > > > > >information highway and get the neccessary information to
refute
> > > > > > >what you think is unpalatable to you.
> > > > > > >That in a nutshell will make you indeed sophisticated for they
> > > >say,the
> > > > > > >taste of the pudding is in the Eating!.
> > > > > > >Thus to prove me wrong come up with info to the contrary rather
> >than
> > > > > being
> > > > > > >passive receipients of knowledge unless your sophistication is
> >only
> > > > > founded
> > > > > > >on being good Xeroxers of other peoples' ways and views.
> > > > > > >Thank you.
> > > > > > >Kipenji.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>___________________________________________________________________________
> > > > > ______________________________________
> > > > > > >jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >Despite your denials, a keen observer cannot fail to notice the
> >envy
> > > > > > >embedded in your
> > > > > > >writings.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >It seems you are turning this into a habit - I mean, the
constant
> > > >failure
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > >answer questions
> > > > > > >put to you. Can you please at last answer Mw. Ssemakula's
> >question
> > > >about
> > > > > > >what you have to show by way of progress in your area /
community
> >for
> > > >the
> > > > > > >last umpteen years. And while you are
> > > > > > >at it, could you also answer my and Mw. Ssemakula's questions
> >about
> > > >your
> > > > > > >allegations
> > > > > > >concerning what Kabaka Mutebi is supposed to have written.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Failing this, I would earnestly advise you to abstain from
> >talking
> > > >about
> > > > > > >things you have not
> > > > > > >even an inkling about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Kasangwawo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:04:24 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >This message is actaully meant for the dustbin and I will
> > > > > > > >next time do exactly that.
> > > > > > > >In London or wherever you are yakking from,how is that
helping
> >you
> > > > > > > >develop Buganda?
> > > > > > > >You should henceforth stop being obtuse and do more
meaningful
> > > > > > > >things.
> > > > > > > >Envy is something very foreign to me and hence your
> >presumptions
> > > > > > > >are very misplaced.
> > > > > > > >Start thinking beyond the chronic mediocrity that appears to
> >have
> > > > > > >engulfed
> > > > > > > >you and your ilk.
> > > > > > > >Ciao!.
> > > > > > > >Kipenji.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>____________________________________________________________________-------
> > > > > ---------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >jonah kasangwawo wrote:
> > > > > > > >Kipenji,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >your envy of Buganda is there for all to see and it knows no
> > > >bounds.
> > > >It
> > > > > > >has
> > > > > > > >taken you
> > > > > > > >so far that you even criticize traditions and mottos whose
> >origin
> > > >you
> > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > >no clue about.
> > > > > > > >If you spent half of the energy which you waste criticizing
> >Buganda
> > > >on
> > > > > > > >developing your region,
> > > > > > > >maybe there would be something to show for it. Oh, that
reminds
> >me.
> > > >Why
> > > > > > > >don't you
> > > > > > > >answer Mw. Ssemakula's question:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >- what do you have to show by way of progress in your area /
> > > >community
> > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > >the last
> > > > > > > >umpteen years ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Kasangwawo
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to
Mengo\Mukooza
> > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 02:19:09 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Ssenyange,I would rather you keep your puerile talks about
> >you
> > > >and
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > >support for Mu7 to yourself.
> > > > > > > > >In the same vein would one have to say that as long as you
> >and
> > > > > Buganda
> > > > > > > >want
> > > > > > > > >to keep Mu7,then you can go ahead and get the Federo for
> >Buganda
> > > >that
> > > > > > >Mu7
> > > > > > > > >is peddling before you?.
> > > > > > > > >Wise people learn from other peoples' mistakes but Fools
> >always
> > > >want
> > > > > > > > >to learn through their own experiences which oftentimes
turns
> >to
> > > >be
> > > > > > >very
> > > > > > > > >expensive.
> > > > > > > > >You think Mu7's killing fields that you support in the
North
> >will
> > > >go
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > >ever?.What about if he achieves what you want and still
feels
> >he
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >kill and by that time only the Baganda like you are there
for
> >him
> > > >to
> > > > > > > > >kill,what will you say?.Will you stop him from killing you
> >and
> > > >your
> > > > > > > > >paranoid ilk?
> > > > > > > > >The Motto that might have been started and adopted for
> >obscure
> > > > > reasons
> > > > > > > > >breeds more true today than then.
> > > > > > > > >Lastly I want you to take it from me,Kipenji,that I have
> >nothing
> > > >that
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >have ever envied about Buganda let alone Baganda so your
> > > >conclusions
> > > > > > > >about
> > > > > > > > >my opinions on this fora are very much misplaced.
> > > > > > > > >Lets' wait and see.
> > > > > > > > >Kipenji.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >__________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >ssenya nyange wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Mukooza,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >So long as UPC supporters continue their hatemonger against
> > > > > > > > >Buganda, Mu7 will rule Uganda until he's deposed by the use
> >of
> > > >arms
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > >killed by bullets. Thats why he doesnt want to stop the war
> >in
> > > >the
> > > > > > >north
> > > > > > > >so
> > > > > > > > >that UPC can increase its sentiments against Buganda-
devide
> > > >more,
> > > > > rule
> > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > >ever. The result will be as you see on Ugandanet. Iam anti
> > > >Museveni
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >when
> > > > > > > > >the Adhola, Mulindwa, Akanga, Kipenji etc continue the
> >envious
> > > > > > >sentiments
> > > > > > > > >against Buganda, I would rather give Mu7 a go ahead until a
> >more
> > > > > > >credible
> > > > > > > > >replacement ( free of UPC, NRM & Ganda sentiments ) is
found.
> >I
> > > >have
> > > > > > > >argued
> > > > > > > > >UPC to initiate a Truth and Reconciliation commission
similar
> >to
> > > >Suth
> > > > > > > > >African but they refused, saying that they have unfinished
> > > >business
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >settle with Buganda. Well, Baganda say
"Ekigy'omanyi........
> > > >kinyaga
> > > > > > > > >bitono"
> > > > > > > > >"Sekawuka kaali kakulumye......." " okwerinda...ssi
> >butiitiizi"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Ssenyange
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: Rehema Mukooza
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Members:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk to
Mengo".
> >Ooh,
> > > > > > >please!
> > > > > > > > > >How many times has he sworn to talk to Mengo?? The fact
is
> >that
> > > >he
> > > > > > >has
> > > > > > > > >not
> > > > > > > > > >done so, and he says the opposite. Take a look into his
> >recent
> > > > > Tororo
> > > > > > > > > >speech when he blasted Mengo. Museveni talks his shit
about
> > > >talking
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > >Mengo and the Kabaka when he is in Buganda. Basically to
> >please
> > > > > > >folks!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Zakoomu M.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>===========================================================================
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Omar Kezimbira wrote:Museveni to talk to Mengo, New
> > > > > > > > > >Vision, 21st April 2004
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >By Alfred Wasike
> > > > > > > > > >PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has said he is willing to
discuss
> > > >with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >Buganda Kingdom officials at Mengo on how much powers
they
> > > >should
> > > > > > >hold
> > > > > > > > >on.
> > > > > > > > > >"I am ready to discuss with my Mengo friends to determine
> >how
> > > >much
> > > > > > > > > >authority they want to hold. I have no problem with
> >discussion
> > > >but
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >power must be shared rationally," Museveni said while
> > > >commissioning
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >first phase of a sh2.7b office complex at the Wakiso
> >district
> > > > > > > > >headquarters
> > > > > > > > > >yesterday.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Vice-President Prof Gilbert Bukenya and Minister for the
> > > > > Presidency,
> > > > > > > > >Alhaj
> > > > > > > > > >Ali Kirunda Kivejinja, were among the guests.
> > > > > > > > > >"But I strongly object to all power being usurped from
the
> > > >people
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >villages, sub-counties and districts and going to
regional
> > > >tiers.
> > > > > Why
> > > > > > > > > >should I, a mwanainchi walk from Buwekula to Mengo or
> > > >Parliament
> > > >in
> > > > > > > > >Kampala
> > > > > > > > > >to have my problems solved? I have a son called Muhoozi.
I
> > > >can't
> > > > > > >usurp
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >authority of running his house. I can only advise him,"
he
> >said
> > > >as
> > > > > > > > > >his supporters yelled, " Museveni for 3rd term", "No
> >change"
> > > >while
> > > > > > > > > >displaying combined three-finger and thumbs-up signs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Museveni (right), said decentralisation had empowered
> >Ugandans
> > > >to
> > > > > > > > >determine
> > > > > > > > > >development in their areas. He attacked exiled UPC leader
> >Apolo
> > > > > > >Milton
> > > > > > > > > >Obote for tricking the DP and other political actors of
the
> > > >1960s
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > >concentrating power at the centre and plunging the
country
> >into
> > > > > > > > >turbulence
> > > > > > > > > >by abrogating the constitution in 1967.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >"He was so greedy that he was even appointing gombolola
> >chiefs.
> > > >But
> > > > > > > >when
> > > > > > > > >we
> > > > > > > > > >went to the bush, we changed all that by restoring power
to
> >the
> > > > > > >people.
> > > > > > > > >But
> > > > > > > > > >some people were against decentralisation," Museveni
said,
> > > > > triggering
> > > > > > > > > >massive cheers.
> > > > > > > > > >He said the actual determinants of Uganda's destiny were
> > > >ordinary
> > > > > > > >people.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >"It is wananchi who are the judges of Uganda's present
and
> > > >future.
> > > > > > > >Those
> > > > > > > > > >judges like Kanyeihamba can only judge cases of theft of
> >goats.
> > > > > They
> > > > > > > > >can't
> > > > > > > > > >manage the cases of politics. it is the voters who are
> >supreme.
> > > >It
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > >not
> > > > > > > > > >Kanyeihamba, or the MPs. It is the people who are the
best
> > > >judges
> > > > > > > >because
> > > > > > > > > >they have the power.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >"So when I hear certain people saying wanainchi don't
have
> >the
> > > > > power,
> > > > > > >I
> > > > > > > > > >really wonder what is wrong with them. Those who want to
> >dilute
> > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >people's power should just shut up. Leaders are servants.
> >They
> > > > > can't
> > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > >the same status as their bosses, the people they lead.
That
> >is
> > > >why
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >went
> > > > > > > > > >into combat," he stressed.
> > > > > > > > > >He said as a result of the Movement's electoral success
in
> >the
> > > >1996
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > >2001 polls, "We have used that power entrusted to us to
> >bring
> > > > > > > >development
> > > > > > > > > >from the centre to the people.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >In 1986, we used to collect sh5b in taxes. Now we collect
> > > >sh1,600b
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >soon
> > > > > > > > > >we shall collect sh1,800b. There are Government efforts,
> > > >private
> > > > > > > > >sector-led
> > > > > > > > > >by investors and encouragement of household incomes to
> > > >eradicate
> > > > > > > > >poverty,"
> > > > > > > > > >Museveni said.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Published on: Wednesday, 21st April, 2004
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