I think I gave you this advice sometime back but let me repeat it for your benefit. Since you seem to have so much time on your hands, instead of wasting it distributing all kinds of questionable articles on tens of forums, you could spend some of it studying what federalism is all about. You could begin with the home-grown www.federo.com where a proposal specifically for federalism in Uganda can be found. After you have sufficiently educated yourself about the subject, you can then come back and if need be oppose federalism, but from an enlightened viewpoint. Your usual 'federalism/federalists will destroy the nation' without giving any grounds for this just doesn't cut it and is increasingly becoming boring and a source of embarrassment for the whole communications gang.
Kasangwawo
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:56:50 -0400
Kasangwawo
Do not bother about any thing but this, Uganda as a nation will survive however much Federalists try to destroy it. That is a statement curved in a stone.
Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:42 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> Mulindwa,
>
> I still don't get it. For this you had to quote a whole paragraph ? You,
as
> a Ugandan, are also part of a solution. So what ?
>
> It is more likely that you felt you belong to the group of people I was
> talking about. Having not quite understood the content, you went along on
> one of your hallucinations about federalism.
>
> Kasangwawo
>
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> >Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:37:26 -0400
> >
> >Kasangwawo
> >
> >My point is very simple, Your being a Ugandan automatically makes you as
> >Kasangwawo in person, a part of a solution to the madness in our nation.
I
> >can never be any clearer.
> >
> >Em
> >Toronto
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:13 PM
> >Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> >
> >
> > > So, what's your point ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > >Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:55:07 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Ugandans
> > > >
> > > >"Incidentally, you are one of those who, when they hear the word
> > > >federalism,
> > > >do something in their pants. You get so scared that you will finally
> >have
> > > >to
> > > >take the fate of your own area in your own hands instead of being
> >spoon-fed
> > > >by the central government, that you don't even believe your community
> >will
> > > >survive under federalism. A pity really, for the federalists'
proposals
> > > >foresee help for such areas."
> > > >
> > > >That is a very informative paragraph on the future of our nation. And
I
> > > >will
> > > >continue to re state to those who are calling this discussion a waste
> >of
> > > >time and we should just forget the bigotry which is fade here day in
> >day
> > > >out, that with out following this discussion one can not understand
the
> > > >poison in Kibuuka's Federalism. But again I am an old man, who long
ago
> > > >told
> > > >Kibuuka that you might cause Buganda a bigger problem than you care
to
> > > >realize. And I am saying today that Uganda has a huge problem, and
> >finding
> > > >a
> > > >solution to the problems of our nation is a duty for all of us, but
> >thanks
> > > >to Kibuuka for bringing up a concocted plan of Federalism to Uganda,
> >for
> > > >today one has the ability to base on facts we have directly got from
> > > >Federalists, in this discussion to understand what way Uganda must
> >follow.
> > > >And I hope some one out there is taking notes. For Uganda as a nation
> >will
> > > >stay, come sea come high waters.
> > > >
> > > >Enjoy the weekend Ugandans and know that Uganda's problems will be
> >solved
> > > >by
> > > >you and only you becoming a part of a solution.
> > > >Em
> > > >Toronto
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:17 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ha, ha ! He has totally lost it. I ask him to tell us about his
> > > >community
> > > > > and all he comes up with is Buganda, Buganda, Buganda. What is
this
> > > > > obsession with Buganda ? If Buganda is undeveloped as you claim,
all
> >we
> > > > > wanted was for you to tell us how your area is doing in
comparison.
> >But
> > > >even
> > > > > that is not forthcoming. I can only conclude that you have nothing
> >"to
> > > >show
> > > > > by way of progress in your area / community for the last umpteen
> >years."
> > > > > This being so, I don't see any logic in your criticism of Buganda
> >when
> > > >your
> > > > > area is far worse off - you could spend your energy trying to
> >improve
> >it
> > > > > instead of wasting it in displaying your envy and inferiority
> >complex.
> > > > >
> > > > > Incidentally, you are one of those who, when they hear the word
> > > >federalism,
> > > > > do something in their pants. You get so scared that you will
finally
> > > >have
> > > >to
> > > > > take the fate of your own area in your own hands instead of being
> > > >spoonfed
> > > > > by the central government, that you don't even believe your
> >community
> > > >will
> > > > > survive under federalism. A pity really, for the federalists'
> >proposals
> > > > > foresee help for such areas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, you did not quote anything. All you did was make some
> > > >allegations
> > > > > about what the Kabaka is supposed to have written. What this is,
you
> > > >didn't
> > > > > say. I therefore find it preposterous to be asked to come up 'with
> >info
> > > >to
> > > > > the contrary' when there is no information to be contradicted. As
> >has
> > > >been
> > > > > your habit of late, when it turned out that you don't know what
you
> >are
> > > > > talking about, you thought up some justification about not wanting
> >to
> > > > > spoonfeed us ! The fact is that there is no such written
> >information.
> > > >What
> > > >a
> > > > > joker !
> > > > >
> > > > > Kasangwawo
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re:t_: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:09:12 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >It is amazing that so called developed and therefore
sophisticated
> > > > > >people,the like of you and your purpoted cohorts still expect to
be
> > > > > >spoon fed with knowledge.
> > > > > >Are you not by inference just proving that you and your ilk are
not
> > > >only
> > > > > >mundane but also anachronistic?
> > > > > >Development can not be defined by parameters that are not robust
> >and
> > > > > >that cannot be verifiable in other settings.
> > > > > >What Buganda had was only administrative structures that showed
the
> > > >strata
> > > > > >into which the rulers could relate with the ordinary folks in
their
> > > >areas.
> > > > > >This same arrangement existed in areas other than Buganda but had
a
> > > > > >different nomenclature which unfortunately for you with your Ntu
> >syntax
> > > > > >innebriation believes since you do not understand it then it
could
> >as
> > > >well
> > > > > >not exist.
> > > > > >If you look at the parameters that are internationally used as a
> >gauge
> > > >of
> > > > > >development,can you tell me what the Infant Mortality rate in
> >Buganda
> > > > > >is?,the Maternal mortality rate?,the life expectancy in Buganda
> >,the
> > > >amount
> > > > > >of disposal income available to these so called developed people
> > > > > >and area you keep jabbering about just as a few examples?.
> > > > > >If you realise that today unlike in the 1950s and 1960s Baganda
are
> >the
> > > > > >highest consumers of Mwogo and all that they used to refer to as
> >not
> > > > > >food,do you still not feel ashamed to utter these nonsenses about
> >being
> > > > > >developed and sophisticated?.
> > > > > >If you also recall that the establishment at the center of your
> > > >purported
> > > > > >development went on to urge their young girls and women to go
sell
> > > >their
> > > > > >hardware in Europe and wherever inorder to bring income to
> >them,does
> > > >that
> > > > > >pass for being developed and sophisticated?
> > > > > >Any society that has no respect for women in their midst and uses
> >them
> > > > > >as entertainers aka Ebimansulo,needs to rethink definitions of
what
> >it
> > > > > >calls development and sophistication.
> > > > > >Have you ever heard of these litany of societal miscues anywhere
> >from
> > > >those
> > > > > >areas you believe in your mind are not developed?.
> > > > > >You are putting yourselves in coccoons of a past that has become
a
> > > >mirage
> > > > > >and thus accepting to be used as political condoms and that is
why
> > > >today
> > > > > >Mu7 is re-sterilizing you for further use in his quest for more
> >time
> >in
> > > > > >Office since he knows very well how gullible you people can be
when
> >it
> > > > > >comes to thinking you can re-invent a wheel.To live is to Change.
> > > > > >From my opening statement,I am not going to spoon feed you on
where
> > > > > >Mutebbi said what I quoted because as developed and sophisticated
> > > >people
> > > > > >you need to exercise your intellect and take advantage of the
super
> > > > > >information highway and get the neccessary information to refute
> > > > > >what you think is unpalatable to you.
> > > > > >That in a nutshell will make you indeed sophisticated for they
> >say,the
> > > > > >taste of the pudding is in the Eating!.
> > > > > >Thus to prove me wrong come up with info to the contrary rather
> >than
> > > >being
> > > > > >passive receipients of knowledge unless your sophistication is
only
> > > >founded
> > > > > >on being good Xeroxers of other peoples' ways and views.
> > > > > >Thank you.
> > > > > >Kipenji.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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