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Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul: "Germany provides
no budgetary aid to
Rwanda." |
SPIEGEL: There are
currently 350,000 refugees in eastern Congo. Rwanda bears much of the blame for
the conflict, but it still receives foreign aid from Germany. Why do you support
these warmongers?
Wieczorek-Zeul: We don't. We provide direct
assistance to people in a country that still faces tremendous burdens as a
consequence of the 1994 genocide.
SPIEGEL: About 70 percent of the
Rwandan government's national budget consists of Western development aid. It
would be easy to exert pressure on the Rwandans by removing their source of
funds.
Wieczorek-Zeul: Germany provides no budgetary aid to
Rwanda. Our foreign aid is designed to support the reconciliation process. This
includes, for example, bringing the perpetrators of the genocide to trial. We
also help survivors and the families of victims.
SPIEGEL: Germany
has spent more than 150 million euros on projects in Rwanda since 1994. The
money also benefits the country's politicians.
Wieczorek-Zeul: Ten
years ago, the global community looked the other way when 800,000 people were
slaughtered in Rwanda. We owe a profound debt to this country, and our way of
repaying that debt is to help its civil society.
SPIEGEL: Are you
lenient with Rwanda because of its horrendous
history?
Wieczorek-Zeul: Absolutely not. But I refuse to punish
the widows and children of those murdered because of their government's
behavior.
SPIEGEL: Rwandan President Paul Kagame is a repeat
offender. His troops have already invaded eastern Congo twice before -- in 1996
and 1998. Now he's threatening to invade again.
Wieczorek-Zeul: I
find his behavior completely incomprehensible. He is damaging himself and his
country. But one mustn't forget that Rwanda is also setting an example in many
respects. Kagame has done a lot to educate children and fight poverty. There is
no point in portraying him as a tyrant.
SPIEGEL: Rwanda is clearly
intent upon pursuing its own interests in the eastern Congo. Many different
groups and governments have been fighting for years to gain control over
valuable natural resources. About four million people have already died as a
result.
Wieczorek-Zeul: Nothing is black and white in this region.
Rwanda also has security interests. The Interahamwe rebels, who were responsible
for the 1994 Rwandan genocide, are committing serious crimes in eastern Congo. A
lot of people in Rwanda are still terrified of these groups.
![A young Rwandan survivor lights a candle at a mass grave to mark the 10-year anniversary of the 1994 genocide.]() |
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A young Rwandan survivor lights a candle at a
mass grave to mark the 10-year anniversary of the 1994
genocide. |
SPIEGEL: What would
you propose as a solution for the region?
Wieczorek-Zeul: We need
a stable peace process. This means that the UN Security Council must pay serious
and not half-hearted attention to the region's problems.
SPIEGEL:
And then?
Wieczorek-Zeul: It must be made clear to everyone
involved that threats or even military action are unacceptable. Those who
violate this principle should expect to face the consequences. This also applies
to Rwanda.
SPIEGEL: That sounds rather
ineffective.
Wieczorek-Zeul: No, it isn't. The global community
certainly has ways to exert pressure. In March, the World Bank will decide
whether to forgive Rwanda's international debt -- several hundred million euros
-- once and for all. If the country fails to seriously take part in the peace
process, I will argue for cancellation of the debt forgiveness
program.
SPIEGEL: It appears that Rwanda is already active in the
Congo. Observers report that small numbers of regular troops have already
crossed the border.
Wieczorek-Zeul: That hasn't been verified yet.
But the fundamental problem is that the entire region is extremely difficult to
navigate and control. For this reason, the most important requirement is that
the UN introduce aerial monitoring. This would enable UN peacekeepers to detect
and prevent troop movements and weapons shipments.
SPIEGEL: The
United Nations have had thousands of troops deployed in the Congo for a long
time. The locals mock them as "tourists," because they don't get
involved.
Wieczorek-Zeul: The UN force in the Congo must exercise
its mandate. One thing is clear, however: There is no military solution for this
region. Everyone involved must realize that they are better off working together
than shooting at one another.
INTERVIEW: HORAND KNAUP,
ROLAND
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