Tumukunde's arrest!
Tumukunde in my opinion deserves all that's coming to him!
He's treated many honest and innocent Ugandans in the same way he's being treated by the same system he and others created.Lord nows how many people were totured and killed by his people during the 2001 election campaigns. Was he blind to the same facts that he's airing now or is it because he expected M7 to move over come 2006 giving him a chance to stand for the post.
Well if you live by the sword you die by the sword,M7 like Mugabe is going down,may not be rapid now but he sure is. Be afraid,be very afraid Kakoza Mutale,Ofwono,Bukenya and am afraid to say Nsibambi.
By: Edwin Mayanja
1st June, 2005 6:01 PM
Parisan
Whats the role of an MP, if they are saying Army MP'S ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE PARTISAN? it's more like not being pro-m'vt is partisan now.
By: joely
1st June, 2005 5:59 PM
prosecution guilty as well
whatever Tumukunde has done, all these other arny officers have done. Who has not made "controversial statements"?
Let the army representatives resign from parliament where they are waiting to vote for kisanja if they are not partisan.
Which place is as controversial as the parliament?
No army officer should have accepted be a member of parliament where they are making very partisan decisions.
By: kimbowa Nicholas
1st June, 2005 3:01 PM
When a system devours its own...
When a system begins to devour its own children then that sends alarm bells to the public.
It is unfortunate that Brig.Tumukunde was part of the clique that hounded Rtd.Col Dr.Kiiza Besigye like a criminal until he fled into exile.
While I do not really feel sorry for the Brigadi er,I think this is an eye opener to those over zealous sycophants who now dress in dry banana leaves.
This is just but one of the signs of a collapsing kleptocracy.
Sane members should jump off the sinking ship before it is too late.
By: Martine Jemos
1st June, 2005 12:42 PM
Tumukunde deserves it
The Tumukundes, Kategayasm Ruzindanas etc helped creat the M7 hegemony. When sober minded people like Besigye saw the rot in the M7 Govt and pointed out the mistakes they were hounded out by these guys. Now it is their turn to face the wrath of the monster they helped creat. Much as he is being treated unfairly Tumukunde should know that he is among those who created that unfairnes.He should be sent to Luzira not in the comfortable OFFICERS MESS.More and more crooks who are still proping up the sinking M7 DYNASTY will be devoured by it before it finally sinks completely,God help them to come out early and redeem themselves like the Kategayas and co have done oterwise history will judge them harshly. Dr Nkurunziza Edward
By: Nkurunziza Edward
1st June, 2005 10:05 AM
Let him taste his own medicine
We say when a revolution stays too much in place, it begins to devour itself while it collapses and indeed, Tumukunde is just one of the victims. However, for Tumukunde, I have no mercy or pity over his corrupted soul. Imagine how many good people Tumukunde arrested, killed and tortured when he was at CMI or ISO. The ghost of those who died in his hands must haunt him mercilessly.
I pray that some day murderers like Mayombo and Kale Kaihura also get their shares of the cake. These people will be hunted in and out and grought to book for all their crimes against humanity.
Tumukunde, if you can read this, then kumbuka siku ku, when you ordered for torturing of our peop le with your infamous "debrief" order!Museveni will miss a great JIK(Jinja Iganga Kamuli) manager during campaigns.
Ya man!!
By: Lamot Dwar
1st June, 2005 3:28 AM
Tumukunde's arrest
It is apparently clear that every defector is seen as an enemy to the current leadership and whatever is said is viewed as negative, thus deserving punishment. I dont know the rules that govern the army in Uganda, so I will not mention my side in his case.
One word of caution though to the arresting bodies. They need to be careful in their decisions. I feel sorry for Tumukunde, but at the same time, his arrest should serve as a warning to those who feel they have all the power. He (Tumukunde) was popular in the 2001 elections and I am sure he never imagined he would be on the other side of the coin. So, those holding the power now should be careful. One good turn deserves another.
By: Amon M. K. TX USA
1st June, 2005 2:06 AM
Anyone Read ANIMAL FARM
It's not too long ago since i read George Orwell's Animal Farm, it's Ironic because i read it at a time wen almost everything in the book could be related to what was happening with the Kisanja' thing and the movement, and now Tumukunde's arrest epitomises it, if you haven't read that book and you have sometime, pliz try and read it, you wont be suprised at how related this is to the current situation. The movement is not going to be any different from most african governments that have stuck to power for decades. it's quiet sad seeing all this going on, the infaltion rate is scaring so bad so that the economy might not keep up and whatelse will the m'vet have to credit 'emselves with? Tumukunde's arrest justified alot of things, majorly the unrest within the movement itself, Tumukunde worked xceptionally hard to see m7 win the last election and now it's unbeleivable he's b'me a victim of his own work!
MOBUTU ruled for over 3 decades but he had an end eventually, every dog has it's day, with the VP making all those comments in the media, if the opposition unite they might have a chance, in balloting i doubt it so much, i wish them all the luck. let's take a leaf from Mandela and we shall have peace once and for all
By: joely
31st May, 2005 10:38 PM
Tumukunde's arrest is politics!
The Tumukunde issue has left many people wandering whether in Uganda we have two groups of people in the Army. Those who can make political statements and not be prosecuted and those who make them and are prosecuted. In 2001, when Tumukunde was still Museveni�s boy, he made all kinds of statements including the one mentioned in the monitor last week where he said that (they came with guns and they still have their guns), I am wandering why he was not prosecute d then and asking my self now, what has changed, is it because his not Museveni�s boy any more or is it the law working here? Many serving officers have been commenting freely about politics but they have never been arrested. The Kakoza M. and so may other serving officers of whom some are Ministers have made political statements but no one has ever been prosecuted. For example, the army MPs in parliament recently showered that they supported the museveni government by voting with the movement, but nothing was done to them. As Tumukunde has told his bosses, he was on TV as an MP and unless the government is saying that MPs can�t speak freely then I think they have no case but rather playing political games as usual. For God and my Country.
By: PETER ERIC MUKUNYA
31st May, 2005 9:28 PM
Kezio the question is not wether.....
I remember meeting Tumukunde once in the bushes of singo sometime in 1984. He was introduced to me by one very good comrade who unfortunately has passed away. Tumukunde is a human like all others, I mean subject to short comes. Just like all, he is responsible for both the good and bad deeds he commits and is a subject to the laws.
Kezio everyman is not guilty until proved by the laws in force. The question is not whether Tumukunde's arrest is justified, but the question is whether he is guilty. This is a judicial issue and is being handled in courts of laws (court martial): Therefore for this topic to carry the real meaningful sense one need to know the laws, rules and regulations, those of which it has been alleged Tumukunde to have breached.
Can anyone including yourself Kezio come out on this board with the lists of the codes of conducts and laws governing the Military, so that it can be easy for the rest of the discussants to come out with a resourceful opinion on the Topic.
Did you think about that?
By: abdul Hari
31st May, 2005 6:41 PM
Tumukunde in my opinion deserves all that's coming to him!
He's treated many honest and innocent Ugandans in the same way he's being treated by the same system he and others created.Lord nows how many people were totured and killed by his people during the 2001 election campaigns. Was he blind to the same facts that he's airing now or is it because he expected M7 to move over come 2006 giving him a chance to stand for the post.
Well if you live by the sword you die by the sword,M7 like Mugabe is going down,may not be rapid now but he sure is. Be afraid,be very afraid Kakoza Mutale,Ofwono,Bukenya and am afraid to say Nsibambi.
By: Edwin Mayanja
1st June, 2005 6:01 PM
Parisan
Whats the role of an MP, if they are saying Army MP'S ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE PARTISAN? it's more like not being pro-m'vt is partisan now.
By: joely
1st June, 2005 5:59 PM
prosecution guilty as well
whatever Tumukunde has done, all these other arny officers have done. Who has not made "controversial statements"?
Let the army representatives resign from parliament where they are waiting to vote for kisanja if they are not partisan.
Which place is as controversial as the parliament?
No army officer should have accepted be a member of parliament where they are making very partisan decisions.
By: kimbowa Nicholas
1st June, 2005 3:01 PM
When a system devours its own...
When a system begins to devour its own children then that sends alarm bells to the public.
It is unfortunate that Brig.Tumukunde was part of the clique that hounded Rtd.Col Dr.Kiiza Besigye like a criminal until he fled into exile.
While I do not really feel sorry for the Brigadi er,I think this is an eye opener to those over zealous sycophants who now dress in dry banana leaves.
This is just but one of the signs of a collapsing kleptocracy.
Sane members should jump off the sinking ship before it is too late.
By: Martine Jemos
1st June, 2005 12:42 PM
Tumukunde deserves it
The Tumukundes, Kategayasm Ruzindanas etc helped creat the M7 hegemony. When sober minded people like Besigye saw the rot in the M7 Govt and pointed out the mistakes they were hounded out by these guys. Now it is their turn to face the wrath of the monster they helped creat. Much as he is being treated unfairly Tumukunde should know that he is among those who created that unfairnes.He should be sent to Luzira not in the comfortable OFFICERS MESS.More and more crooks who are still proping up the sinking M7 DYNASTY will be devoured by it before it finally sinks completely,God help them to come out early and redeem themselves like the Kategayas and co have done oterwise history will judge them harshly. Dr Nkurunziza Edward
By: Nkurunziza Edward
1st June, 2005 10:05 AM
Let him taste his own medicine
We say when a revolution stays too much in place, it begins to devour itself while it collapses and indeed, Tumukunde is just one of the victims. However, for Tumukunde, I have no mercy or pity over his corrupted soul. Imagine how many good people Tumukunde arrested, killed and tortured when he was at CMI or ISO. The ghost of those who died in his hands must haunt him mercilessly.
I pray that some day murderers like Mayombo and Kale Kaihura also get their shares of the cake. These people will be hunted in and out and grought to book for all their crimes against humanity.
Tumukunde, if you can read this, then kumbuka siku ku, when you ordered for torturing of our peop le with your infamous "debrief" order!Museveni will miss a great JIK(Jinja Iganga Kamuli) manager during campaigns.
Ya man!!
By: Lamot Dwar
1st June, 2005 3:28 AM
Tumukunde's arrest
It is apparently clear that every defector is seen as an enemy to the current leadership and whatever is said is viewed as negative, thus deserving punishment. I dont know the rules that govern the army in Uganda, so I will not mention my side in his case.
One word of caution though to the arresting bodies. They need to be careful in their decisions. I feel sorry for Tumukunde, but at the same time, his arrest should serve as a warning to those who feel they have all the power. He (Tumukunde) was popular in the 2001 elections and I am sure he never imagined he would be on the other side of the coin. So, those holding the power now should be careful. One good turn deserves another.
By: Amon M. K. TX USA
1st June, 2005 2:06 AM
Anyone Read ANIMAL FARM
It's not too long ago since i read George Orwell's Animal Farm, it's Ironic because i read it at a time wen almost everything in the book could be related to what was happening with the Kisanja' thing and the movement, and now Tumukunde's arrest epitomises it, if you haven't read that book and you have sometime, pliz try and read it, you wont be suprised at how related this is to the current situation. The movement is not going to be any different from most african governments that have stuck to power for decades. it's quiet sad seeing all this going on, the infaltion rate is scaring so bad so that the economy might not keep up and whatelse will the m'vet have to credit 'emselves with? Tumukunde's arrest justified alot of things, majorly the unrest within the movement itself, Tumukunde worked xceptionally hard to see m7 win the last election and now it's unbeleivable he's b'me a victim of his own work!
MOBUTU ruled for over 3 decades but he had an end eventually, every dog has it's day, with the VP making all those comments in the media, if the opposition unite they might have a chance, in balloting i doubt it so much, i wish them all the luck. let's take a leaf from Mandela and we shall have peace once and for all
By: joely
31st May, 2005 10:38 PM
Tumukunde's arrest is politics!
The Tumukunde issue has left many people wandering whether in Uganda we have two groups of people in the Army. Those who can make political statements and not be prosecuted and those who make them and are prosecuted. In 2001, when Tumukunde was still Museveni�s boy, he made all kinds of statements including the one mentioned in the monitor last week where he said that (they came with guns and they still have their guns), I am wandering why he was not prosecute d then and asking my self now, what has changed, is it because his not Museveni�s boy any more or is it the law working here? Many serving officers have been commenting freely about politics but they have never been arrested. The Kakoza M. and so may other serving officers of whom some are Ministers have made political statements but no one has ever been prosecuted. For example, the army MPs in parliament recently showered that they supported the museveni government by voting with the movement, but nothing was done to them. As Tumukunde has told his bosses, he was on TV as an MP and unless the government is saying that MPs can�t speak freely then I think they have no case but rather playing political games as usual. For God and my Country.
By: PETER ERIC MUKUNYA
31st May, 2005 9:28 PM
Kezio the question is not wether.....
I remember meeting Tumukunde once in the bushes of singo sometime in 1984. He was introduced to me by one very good comrade who unfortunately has passed away. Tumukunde is a human like all others, I mean subject to short comes. Just like all, he is responsible for both the good and bad deeds he commits and is a subject to the laws.
Kezio everyman is not guilty until proved by the laws in force. The question is not whether Tumukunde's arrest is justified, but the question is whether he is guilty. This is a judicial issue and is being handled in courts of laws (court martial): Therefore for this topic to carry the real meaningful sense one need to know the laws, rules and regulations, those of which it has been alleged Tumukunde to have breached.
Can anyone including yourself Kezio come out on this board with the lists of the codes of conducts and laws governing the Military, so that it can be easy for the rest of the discussants to come out with a resourceful opinion on the Topic.
Did you think about that?
By: abdul Hari
31st May, 2005 6:41 PM
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