[Ugnet] Re: [Ugandacom] Uganda: U.S. to Support Anti-LRA War

Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:15:18 -0800

Ugandans:
 
I , and many other Ugandans, are yet to be convinced beyond any reasonable doubt,  that the so called "kony Rebels" exist. Is there a force which is killing and massacring the people of Uganda? Answer:  yes there is. Could that force be some members of the UPDF? Answer: Yes that could very well be the case.. Is this force part of a conspiracy plan by the Museveni dictatorship to wipe out "Biological Substances together with their culture and indentity in Northern and Eastern Uganda? answer: that could very well be.
 
Now let us look at the evidence which tends to dismiss this Notion that the so called
KONY rebels exist;
 
8) All we hear about the so called "Kony rebels" is nothing other then NRM UPDF propaganda pronoucements mostly propagated by the New  Vision Newspaper.
 
7)We are told, by n on other then Museveni  that KONY Rebels reminants now number only about  120. Now you ask yourself, how can 120 so called "kony reminants" cause choas in the whole of Northern and Eastern Uganda, Southern Sudan and now Eastern DRC Congo. How is this possible?
 
6) The other day we heard from the New Vision, that UPDF had unearth "Kony's" B10 Guns buried somewhere in Northern Uganda. Now if you are a soldier you know that B10 guns are very heavy weapons normally carried by heavy Army Trucks. As to where "kony Rbebels" obtain such trucks to carry these  weapons, is indeed a mystery to many of us.
 
5)A roman Catholic Priest in Eastern DRC Congo, in the past week  testify that the people herein reffered to as 'kony rebels" and who are now occupying  Eastern DRC..  are  actually UPDF troops.
 
4)WE are further told that the so called "kony rebels" have crossed to Eas tern DRC  from Southern Sudan and Northern Uganda. A week later, "Kony rebels" waylay and attempt to assasinate UPDF Army Major somewhere in Northern Uganda.
 
3)from 6 above, How "kony rebels' actually crossed  River Nile from Northern and Southern Sudan under the hawkish watchful eyes of the Ugandan UPDF troops, is but a wonder to many. Did this people swim accross or used boats? who gave them the boats?
 
2)Above all and most importantly, Nobody , not even repsentatives of   Non-Governmental Organizations many of whom are roaming arround are quiet abandant in Northern and Eastern Uganda , have over the duration of  twenty years have   NOT actually  seen "kony" or talked to KONY face to face.
 
1)Consider that during the   Angola Civil war , or the Sudan Civil War   international News Media like the BBC, VOA, RADIO FRANCE INTER NATIONAL  had a chance and did talk to the then rebel leaders such as  Jonas Savimbi, of Angola or  John Garang of the Sudan. In the case of "Kony" no such thing has occured!!!!What does that tell you or any smart intelligent Ugandan out there?
 
 
For this and many other reasons,  the existence of so called "kony rebels" is very doubful indeed.
 
 Nonetheless, the fact is that our people are suffering in the camps of Northern and Eastern Uganda.
 
The key issue at hand now is for the regime to bring this suffering to a speedy  end and quickly.
 
It is no longer enough for the NRM Military dictatorship to continue propagating it's constant propaganda pronoucement emminated through THE NEW VISION NewsPaper   in the hope that  some how this propaganda moves will help defeat "kony" and  solve the pressing issue now confronting the people of o Northern and Eastern Uganda.
 
In essence some of us are very much relieved that members of the International Commuinty, in particular the United Nations, and the United Nations  Security Council and International Non-Governmental Organizations , in a very fresh move are now demanding that the regime in Kampala resolve the Northern/ Eastern Uganda  Crises peaceful  .
 
Matek Opoko

Ed Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Good points, but i can see that for social reason you refer to uncle Joe's rebels as "Kony rebels" or the so "called Kony rebels". By parenthisising the insurgents, you create a fallacy that they do not exist or that you do not want to refer to them as rebels, can we start there in admitting that Kony exist and he is a l eader of an insurgency organization with a lot of support from Acholi people mainly based abroad, the Sudanese government and some strong personalties on European Union.  Let us admit that the problem exist

Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First, by admitting that  problems do exist, one   begins  to address the issue at hand in a genuine fashion. Unfortunately, Museveni and your NRM/O seem to minimize the problem at hand..they have been doing so for twenty years.
 
For instance the NRM has stated time and time ( one only needs to look  at New Vision archives to reach this conculsion) again to Ugandans and Members of the International Commuinty  that the wars in Northern and Eastern Uganda is in it's last stages ...that the so called "kony Rebels" have been reduced  to a handful of  "rebels"..and that soon the people  now living in squalid  de-humunizing conditions in the camps of Northern and Eastern Uganda will soon go home. This NRM Propaganda has been going on for twenty years.
 
Second, The NRM Military dictatorship has not attempted genuinely  to resolve the issue with   the so called "Kony Rebels"  peacefully. The NRM with it's friends in the WEST have emphasised MILITARY means  over peaceful means to solve the problems.
 
To that end Museveni's NRM has recuited and trained many many Militia armies like AMUKA or Arrow Bridgade a move to   contain the so called "Kony rebels".
In the mean time the UPDF continues to be armed to the tooth by nation such as Britian and the USA  to continue fighting a war which has no end in sight and has lead to many Human suffering in the camps.All this efforts as you are very much aware has failed to contain the so called "rebels" .
 
And now the regime in Kampala is threathening DRC Congo Governemnt with yet another invasion of DRC ..I hear in a move to go after "kony Rebels"..in essense Museveni is now trying to expand the "kony War" to include Eastern DRC Congo.Which may include the establisment of yet more camps in Eastern DRC  Congo.
 
In the meantime, Uganda legislators in Parliament, even though the people of Northern and Eastern Uganda have lived and continue to live under deplorable conditions in the camps, have not seen it fit to declare Northern and Eastern Uganda  disaster areas; . ..actions which could have lead to a more sustain comprehensive effort on the part of Members of the International Commuinty to step in with geninue efforts to help
 the people of Northern and Eastern Uganda.
 
 
The on ly attempt to try to use peaceful means to reslove the issue at hand , was to deploy a third rated so called  "peace negotiater, who also dabs as Yoweri Museveni's concurbine..a lady by the name of Ms. Betty Atuke Bigombe" as I hear "the peace mediator". "Kony Smelt the rat" and pretty much snubbed Bigombe's efforts. She is now coiled up here in Washington DC..doing what..only the heavens now.
 
The mere fact that the regime in Kampala and it's friends in the west can deploy Ms. Betty  Bigombe to I hear "negotiate peace " with the "rebels".. that in and of it's self tells some of us that the NRM and members of the International Commuinty are not serious!!
 
Moreover, now that the ICC has indicted "kony himself and his so called "Rebel Commanders", it appear , at least to some of us, that any future attempt to try  to negotiate peace with the so called "kony rebels" is further doomed for ever and ever!!
 
So the Military option has failed, the peacful option has now failed..now what is next? only Museveni and his NRM Military Dictatorships can and must articluate to the people of Uganda as to what they are going to do to healp the people in the camps of Northern and eastern Uganda..before the people can NO LONGER TAKE IT ANY MORE and demand Museveni's head on a plate!!!
 
Opoko Matek

Ed Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matek Opoko
The approach(es) in the past 20 years has/have been:
 
(01) Military - hunting down the insurgents since 1986
(02) Political  - negotiations using Acholi elders, Religious leaders, Acholi politicians, international threats.
(03) Monetary - luring insurgents  (like Alice Lakwena, reb els of other groups, etc) with money,
(04) Social - amnesty as in presidential pardon, fusing the warring factions into the main stream national army,
Whatever approach you call it, assume that the government has failed or is not interested in ending the conflict,what  new approach, Mr Matek Opoko, would you deploy to end the conflict so that the 2 million Ugandans in the conflict zone could live happily thereafter? Thank you


Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fellow Citizens:
 
As the  wise would say:   when working  on a problem..and you do not seem to be getting a suitable answer, Concrete logical analysis demands that you change coarse
and begin to look at the problem from a different angle!!
 
Damn people however, keep hammering at the some problem using the means they have used for 20 years!!!!...in a move to solve the problem...even  If it means hammering on the problem for anaother 20 years...like a cave man  hammering on a peace  rock they will be at it!!! Of course nobody cares about the ramification on the civilian population of the said approach.
 
MK
 
Uganda: U.S. to Support Anti-LRA War

 
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New Vision (Kampala)
March 19, 2006
Posted to the web March 20, 2006
Alice Emasu
Washington, DC
THE United States Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council in Washington, Dr. Cindy Courville, has said the US government is committed to supporting Uganda to end the 20-year northern Uganda war.
Courville revealed this on Thursday during a meeting with six women journalists from Africa at her office in the White House, Washington DC.
S he said the administration of President George Bush was working tirelessly to find the best way to fight Joseph Kony, the leader of the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA).
The LRA, declared by the United States a terrorist organisation, has been at war for 20 years, raping, maiming and killing the local population. Over one million people have been uprooted from their homes by the war and are now living in camps.
"We know that you are challenged by Kony. Many people feel frustrated but we have to work with you and get a solution. We feel that it is probably not right to deploy 2,000 American soldiers to fight one man," explained Courville, who is President Bush's advisor on security and foreign policy matters.
According to her, the solution to the war in the north couldn't be found as fast as the people want it. She said the US has assisted the country to train the army in anti-terrorism.
While commenting on the recently-concluded presidential election, Courville said prior to the election, Uganda was seen as a role model of democracy in many ways by most of the African countries.
She said the US did not participate in removing the presidential term limits. "We are told your people chose to return Museveni as your president. But even if there were problems with the term limits, you now have to work with him and build the political parties," she said.
Courville pointed out that Museveni cannot be compared with the former South African President Nelson Mandela because whereas Mandela, inherited the political policies from previous governments; Museveni initiated policies.
She, however, observed that the challenge for Museveni is to move forward and open up the political space for the parties.
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"I really believe that Uganda has a big future. I think that democracy for East Africa will be a success. But for the region to be stable, the East African leaders need to work with the governments of Rwanda and Burundi because they still need support," Courville said.
She disclosed that Bush was concentrating on Africa because he has seen the determination of the African people to develop their continent.
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