IsEnglish proving harder and harder?
Recent reports have indicated that LRA top guns have crossed to DRC and Atubo's capture confirms that.
On 3/22/06, Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Captain Bosco Atubo's capture in the northeastern Congolese town of Aba is the first tangible confirmation of the rebel group's presence in the DR Congo."In twenty years? God I love new Vision.EmTorontoThe Mulindwas Communication Group
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----- Original Message -----From: Ed KirondeSent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:43 AMSubject: Re: [Ugandacom] Uganda: U.S. to Support Anti-LRA War
Would this convince you?MONUC captures LRA commander
Publication date: Wednesday, 22nd March, 2006By Emmy Allio
THE UN Observer Mission in Congo (MONUC) and the Congolese army captured a senior LRA rebel in Garamba on Monday.
Captain Bosco Atubo's capture in the northeastern Congolese town of Aba is the first tangible confirmation of the rebel group's presence in the DR Congo.
The Congolese army handed over Atubo to MONUC who in turn handed him over to the Uganda government on Monday.
"We are happy that MONUC and the Congolese army have finally seen the truth and are getting serious with the Kony rebels," said a senior security official.
Of the LRA rebels now in Congo, Atubo is the second officer to be captured. Second lieutenant Richard Odong, who was captured early this month on the Yei-Juba road said they live peacefully in Congo without being attacked by the MONUC or Congolese forces.
He said MONUC attacked them on February 23, when they killed eight Guatemalan UN peacekeepers in Aba.
Odong told the New Vision that they do not carry guns or wear uniforms in DRC but move freely in Aba and Faradje posing as Sudanese refugees.
The head of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees sub-office in Yei, Sudan, Ahmed Warsame, said the LRA presence in Congo has disturbed villages and camps where the Sudanese refugees are.
There are about 20,000 Sudanese refugees in Congo, but around Garamba they are spread out in the settlements and camps of Aba, Faradje, Kurukwata, Doruma, Niangara, Dungu and Bangadi.
Warsame said LRA activities around Garamba forced the UNHCR staff in the Aba Sudanese refugee camp to relocate to Aru, while another camp in Doruma was closed.
Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) forces and the UPDF are conducting joint operations against LRA on the Sudan-Congo border.
The minister of information in the SPLM government in southern Sudan said the Sudan government was still supporting LRA and "are now using them to fail the southern government ahead of the referendum in five years' time."
Sudanese military officials in Juba denied allegations of supporting the LRA, saying Khartoum last gave them support in 1998.
This article can be found on-line at: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/488531© Copyright 2000-2006 The New Vision. All rights reserved.Ugandans:I , and many other Ugandans, are yet to be convinced beyond any reasonable doubt, that the so called "kony Rebels" exist. Is there a force which is killing and massacring the people of Uganda? Answer: yes there is. Could that force be some members of the UPDF? Answer: Yes that could very well be the case.. Is this force part of a conspiracy plan by the Museveni dictatorship to wipe out "Biological Substances together with their culture and indentity in Northern and Eastern Uganda? answer: that could very well be.Now let us look at the evidence which tends to dismiss this Notion that the so calledKONY rebels exist;8) All we hear about the so called "Kony rebels" is nothing other then NRM UPDF propaganda pronoucements mostly propagated by the New Vision Newspaper.7)We are told, by non other then Museveni that KONY Rebels reminants now number only about 120. Now you ask yourself, how can 120 so called "kony reminants" cause choas in the whole of Northern and Eastern Uganda, Southern Sudan and now Eastern DRC Congo. How is this possible?6) The other day we heard from the New Vision, that UPDF had unearth "Kony's" B10 Guns buried somewhere in Northern Uganda. Now if you are a soldier you know that B10 guns are very heavy weapons normally carried by heavy Army Trucks. As to where "kony Rbebels" obtain such trucks to carry these weapons, is indeed a mystery to many of us.5)A roman Catholic Priest in Eastern DRC Congo, in the past week testify that the people herein reffered to as 'kony rebels" and who are now occupying Eastern DRC.. are actually UPDF troops.4)WE are further told that the so called "kony rebels" have crossed to Eastern DRC from Southern Sudan and Northern Uganda. A week later, "Kony rebels" waylay and attempt to assasinate UPDF Army Major somewhere in Northern Uganda.3)from 6 above, How "kony rebels' actually crossed River Nile from Northern and Southern Sudan under the hawkish watchful eyes of the Ugandan UPDF troops, is but a wonder to many. Did this people swim accross or used boats? who gave them the boats?2)Above all and most importantly, Nobody , not even repsentatives of Non-Governmental Organizations many of whom are roaming arround are quiet abandant in Northern and Eastern Uganda , have over the duration of twenty years have NOT actually seen "kony" or talked to KONY face to face.1)Consider that during the Angola Civil war , or the Sudan Civil War international News Media like the BBC, VOA, RADIO FRANCE INTERNATIONAL had a chance and did talk to the then rebel leaders such as Jonas Savimbi, of Angola or John Garang of the Sudan. In the case of "Kony" no such thing has occured!!!!What does that tell you or any smart intelligent Ugandan out there?For this and many other reasons, the existence of so called "kony rebels" is very doubful indeed.Nonetheless, the fact is that our people are suffering in the camps of Northern and Eastern Uganda.The key issue at hand now is for the regime to bring this suffering to a speedy end and quickly.It is no longer enough for the NRM Military dictatorship to continue propagating it's constant propaganda pronoucement emminated through THE NEW VISION NewsPaper in the hope that some how this propaganda moves will help defeat "kony" and solve the pressing issue now confronting the people of o Northern and Eastern Uganda.In essence some of us are very much relieved that members of the International Commuinty, in particular the United Nations, and the United Nations Security Council and International Non-Governmental Organizations , in a very fresh move are now demanding that the regime in Kampala resolve the Northern/ Eastern Uganda Crises peaceful .Good points, but i can see that for social reason you refer to uncle Joe's rebels as "Kony rebels" or the so "called Kony rebels". By parenthisising the insurgents, you create a fallacy that they do not exist or that you do not want to refer to them as rebels, can we start there in admitting that Kony exist and he is a leader of an insurgency organization with a lot of support from Acholi people mainly based abroad, the Sudanese government and some strong personalties on European Union. Let us admit that the problem exist
Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:First, by admitting that problems do exist, one begins to address the issue at hand in a genuine fashion. Unfortunately, Museveni and your NRM/O seem to minimize the problem at hand..they have been doing so for twenty years.For instance the NRM has stated time and time ( one only needs to look at New Vision archives to reach this conculsion) again to Ugandans and Members of the International Commuinty that the wars in Northern and Eastern Uganda is in it's last stages ...that the so called "kony Rebels" have been reduced to a handful of "rebels"..and that soon the people now living in squalid de-humunizing conditions in the camps of Northern and Eastern Uganda will soon go home. This NRM Propaganda has been going on for twenty years.Second, The NRM Military dictatorship has not attempted genuinely to resolve the issue with the so called "Kony Rebels" peacefully. The NRM with it's friends in the WEST have emphasised MILITARY means over peaceful means to solve the problems.To that end Museveni's NRM has recuited and trained many many Militia armies like AMUKA or Arrow Bridgade a move to contain the so called "Kony rebels".In the mean time the UPDF continues to be armed to the tooth by nation such as Britian and the USA to continue fighting a war which has no end in sight and has lead to many Human suffering in the camps.All this efforts as you are very much aware has failed to contain the so called "rebels" .And now the regime in Kampala is threathening DRC Congo Governemnt with yet another invasion of DRC ..I hear in a move to go after "kony Rebels"..in essense Museveni is now trying to expand the "kony War" to include Eastern DRC Congo.Which may include the establisment of yet more camps in Eastern DRC Congo.In the meantime, Uganda legislators in Parliament, even though the people of Northern and Eastern Uganda have lived and continue to live under deplorable conditions in the camps, have not seen it fit to declare Northern and Eastern Uganda disaster areas; . ..actions which could have lead to a more sustain comprehensive effort on the part of Members of the International Commuinty to step in with geninue efforts to helpthe people of Northern and Eastern Uganda.The only attempt to try to use peaceful means to reslove the issue at hand , was to deploy a third rated so called "peace negotiater, who also dabs as Yoweri Museveni's concurbine..a lady by the name of Ms. Betty Atuke Bigombe" as I hear "the peace mediator". "Kony Smelt the rat" and pretty much snubbed Bigombe's efforts. She is now coiled up here in Washington DC..doing what..only the heavens now.The mere fact that the regime in Kampala and it's friends in the west can deploy Ms. Betty Bigombe to I hear "negotiate peace " with the "rebels".. that in and of it's self tells some of us that the NRM and members of the International Commuinty are not serious!!Moreover, now that the ICC has indicted "kony himself and his so called "Rebel Commanders", it appear , at least to some of us, that any future attempt to try to negotiate peace with the so called "kony rebels" is further doomed for ever and ever!!So the Military option has failed, the peacful option has now failed..now what is next? only Museveni and his NRM Military Dictatorships can and must articluate to the people of Uganda as to what they are going to do to healp the people in the camps of Northern and eastern Uganda..before the people can NO LONGER TAKE IT ANY MORE and demand Museveni's head on a plate!!!Matek OpokoThe approach(es) in the past 20 years has/have been:(01) Military - hunting down the insurgents since 1986(02) Political - negotiations using Acholi elders, Religious leaders, Acholi politicians, international threats.(03) Monetary - luring insurgents (like Alice Lakwena, rebels of other groups, etc) with money,(04) Social - amnesty as in presidential pardon, fusing the warring factions into the main stream national army,Whatever approach you call it, assume that the government has failed or is not interested in ending the conflict,what new approach, Mr Matek Opoko, would you deploy to end the conflict so that the 2 million Ugandans in the conflict zone could live happily thereafter? Thank youFellow Citizens:As the wise would say: when working on a problem..and you do not seem to be getting a suitable answer, Concrete logical analysis demands that you change coarseand begin to look at the problem from a different angle!!Damn people however, keep hammering at the some problem using the means they have used for 20 years!!!!...in a move to solve the problem...even If it means hammering on the problem for anaother 20 years... like a cave man hammering on a peace rock they will be at it!!! Of course nobody cares about the ramification on the civilian population of the said approach.MKUganda: U.S. to Support Anti-LRA War
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Posted to the web March 20, 2006Alice Emasu
Washington, DCTHE United States Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council in Washington, Dr. Cindy Courville, has said the US government is committed to supporting Uganda to end the 20-year northern Uganda war.Courville revealed this on Thursday during a meeting with six women journalists from Africa at her office in the White House, Washington DC.She said the administration of President George Bush was working tirelessly to find the best way to fight Joseph Kony, the leader of the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA).The LRA, declared by the United States a terrorist organisation, has been at war for 20 years, raping, maiming and killing the local population. Over one million people have been uprooted from their homes by the war and are now living in camps."We know that you are challenged by Kony. Many people feel frustrated but we have to work with you and get a solution. We feel that it is probably not right to deploy 2,000 American soldiers to fight one man," explained Courville, who is President Bush's advisor on security and foreign policy matters.According to her, the solution to the war in the north couldn't be found as fast as the people want it. She said the US has assisted the country to train the army in anti-terrorism.While commenting on the recently-concluded presidential election, Courville said prior to the election, Uganda was seen as a role model of democracy in many ways by most of the African countries.She said the US did not participate in removing the presidential term limits. "We are told your people chose to return Museveni as your president. But even if there were problems with the term limits, you now have to work with him and build the political parties," she said.Courville pointed out that Museveni cannot be compared with the former South African President Nelson Mandela because whereas Mandela, inherited the political policies from previous governments; Museveni initiated policies.She, however, observed that the challenge for Museveni is to move forward and open up the political space for the parties.
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