Matek

You know what frustrates? Is that the supporters of FDC are told the facts on 
the table and they simply refuse to take them because they always have a last 
card. They come back and state and I quote " We were duped" End of quote. The 
very strength I am burning today to inform this man is the very same efforts 
many of us spent to inform these Ugandans about Museveni based on what we knew 
at a time. They simply refused to listen. That is why today I do not buy that 
we were duped nonsense from FDC supporters. And neither should any other 
Ugandan for they as my fellow Ugandan Ocii received all these information's but 
simply ignored it.

What a sad day.

Em
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matek Opoko 
  To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda 
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania


  EM:
  Can I whisper a few words!

  You are making no  head way so to say...with this your argument.
  Indeed, many Intelligent Ugandans  here may rightly conclude  that you are 
engaged in some sort of  "market argument "  with a drunkard!
  MK

  Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Ocii

    With all due respect, D Kiiza Besigye left the Movement not on political 
grounds but because when he and the rest of Movmentists went to DRC to loot, 
they looted but Museveni's representatives cut out Besigye in the split of the 
loot. Besigye has absolutely no single problem with Museveni, that is why (a) 
You have never got any new information about Museveni from Besigye. For example 
has he told you who killed Andrew Kayiira even though he was the junior 
minister of internal affairs, who even Ssemogerere has publicly stated that he 
was handed the Kayiira's file? Has Besigye ever told you who killed our people 
for example the Ndeeba Doctor's village, The Dr Barlow's, the Kanungu 
massacres. Ocii what details have you got from this man claiming to have ran 
out of Museveni? In other wards how has Besigye's defection from the Movment 
helped you to understand the inner working of the Movement that you did not 
know when Besigye was still an insider? Which brings me to (b) Dr. Kiiza 
Besigye has no where to go but to join the Movement and get a job.

    And trust me he will.

    Em
    Toronto

     The Mulindwas Communication Group
    "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
    "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: ocii 
      To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda 
      Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:31 PM
      Subject: Re: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania


      You are dead wrong. 

      Its not Kigezi that can save Uganda but Ugandans. Kizza Besigye plus 
others who rebeled against the very system that recruited them to fight Mu7's 
war in Uganda realised after some years of politics grounded on hatred toward 
other Ugandans that that definitely is not the way for Uganda as a nation. 
Mu7's strategy is to kill off those he hate; that is why he concentrated in 
killing off his supposed opponents, using various means: "scorched earth"; 
"combing"; "concentration camps" etc, from the North and NorthEast of the 
country! 

      Late Apollo Milton Obote on "THE CONCEALMENT OF GENOCIDE IN UGANDA", 
wrote:

      "In March 1990, Museveni moved physically to Kumi District in the East 
and remained there for 18 days where he took command of his army against 
"rebels". The war, which according to him, had ended was being prosecuted by 
him, some nine months later, with the greatest brutalities. The entire 
population of Kumi District or whatever number remained alive from previous 
massacres, have now been forced into concentration camps and Museveni is 
personally commanding his army in the destruction of homes and property. 
Considering that the population of Kumi (1979 census) was, in round figures 
350,000, the number of the entire population of the District which has not 
(1990) been herded in camps is extremely ominous. The number being given is 
150,000; that certainly can not be the entire population of Kumi. The missing 
200,000 and more appear to be of no interest or concern to those who have 
created walls to protect Museveni and conceal his genocide. Kumi is the 
District where on several previous occasions, the NRA rounded young men and had 
them burnt, gassed or starved to death in Railway wagons. The latest such deed 
was in July 1989. Museveni and his army have been engaged in the orgies of 
killings in this District like others in the North and East since 1986. Kumi 
like its Northern neighbors of Soroti and Lira was a cattle area. This time as 
the people went to concentration camps, there was no cattle at all in the 
villages; the animals in Kumi are to be found in the NRA barracks; which is 
also the case in the Districts of Soroti, Lira, Apac, Kitgum and Gulu."

      Depopulation strategy. 

      Now, Dr. Besigye realised this about ten years ago and rebeled, while you 
Mulindwa openly states: "I am scared of FDC for if these people managed to 
craft the Movement policies this good to be effective for twenty years, I 
surely would vote for Museveni than Kiiza Besigye any time." What you forget so 
quickly is that when Ugandans invaded the country from Tanzania way back in the 
early 70s to remove Amin, many Ugandan invaders perished not in the hands of 
Amin's soldiers! But in the hand of you know who......! Read Dr. Obote's 
writings to know more. 

      My question to you: Was Dr. Besigye among those who invaded Uganda from 
Tanzania to remove Amin? If Dr. Besigye was indeed among these guerilla troops 
of which eventually many perished but not in the hands of Amin's soldiers, then 
sure Dr. Besigye is a dangerous guy who crafted the policy to liquidate these 
guerilla men and woman. However, if Dr. Besigye was not among these men then 
you need to stop playing with adults here in this forum.

      Ocii

      Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        One of the reasons FDC has failed so miserably is a total failure of 
communication, and this has been witnessed from rally to demonstrations to 
forums. For some reason, they consider them selves to know better than any 
other Ugandan creature, a very reason they claim Uganda's salvation to come 
from Kigezi. And that is not the first time major development to have come from 
Kigezi, let us remember that it was the old men of Kigezi that advised Iddi 
Amin to be a life president, as it was Kigezi which elected Museveni at 99% to 
the Kigezi Generals being able to throw Museveni out.

        With out Kigezi there seem to be no Uganda.

        Em
        Toronto

         The Mulindwas Communication Group
        "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                    Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
        "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: ocii 
          To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda 
          Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 6:52 PM
          Subject: Re: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania


          So? You got a problem with who I am?

          And why are you hiding under some "Mwirima Byaruhanga" on the 
internent like everyone else? Come out and let us see. Until then, just shut 
up!, for you know very little.

          Ocii 

          Mwirima Byaruhanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
            ocii,

            dont be on the offensive.

            that style of writting usually tells a few things:

            - you cannot relay your message eloquently in real life
            and choose to 'hide behind email'
            - you fear to be challenged.
            - you do not know how to win an argument peacefully.

            either way, as Edward says, your abusive writting style tells much 
about
            who you really are.

            -ebm


            ocii wrote thus on 14/07/2007 05:50:
            > Mwirima,
            > 
            > You most definitely have difficulties reading or understanding 
what is
            > written. What part of "butt out" don't you understand? Are you 
still
            > stuck in kindergarten or you are merely a case of an inferior 
Ugandan
            > who strive strenuously to appear one who know english language so
            > well?
            > 
            > I can write english in any form I chose; it is not my mother 
tongue.
            > Is that just about clear?
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