Matek 2
By the way Museveni did not only survive Chong Gwok, there was another UNLA Lt
Col Kilama who found him in Luwero and shot him, luckily this time around
Museveni took a bullet in a leg and that is why he got scared of Luwero and he
ran out of the war to Sweden. When he was sworn into power Kilama was arrested
near Magamaga taken to Luzira and killed.
There are those that have done a national duty just failed to get the man.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Matek Opoko
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:39 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Is Mulago only for baganda? MATEK
Charles!
You have not yet seen craziness.....as far as I am concerned, the only
mistake the UPC made was NOT to deal with your type firmly and resolutely.
Museveni should have been dealt with at Kereka road block when "chong Gwok"
arrested him.
Cardinal Nsubuga too should have been dealt with...as was kabaka Mutebi when
he was conducting his clandestine rendezvous with Museveni in Luwero!!!
This actions taken , perhaps the Republic would not have gone through 21
years of suffering in Northern and eastern Uganda!!!
Well guess what Obote was lenient ... wait till you get a real sob in that
chair!!!
Matek
Charles Kibuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The problem wih you Matek is that you always write things with out thinking
them through a little. I'm of the view that you sould have read my email a
little more carefully before replying. I said that UPC created the demand for
Museveni because they presided over a governement that failed to control its
soldiers. Even as bad as Museveni is, his solders are not killing as many
Ugandans out of the operational theater as Obote's did. Your right, the Baganda
supported Museveni during the bush war, but only because they had no
alternative. UPC was killed them like flies, therefore the blame lies squarely
on them, why can't you people really see your mistakes and take responsibility?
With regard to Mulago, I think you have completly lost it here. I'm sure you
read todays new vision story of mothers dieing while giving birth. If you did
not, then read here below and tell me if the names mentioned there belong to
only baganda. In fact the nurse taking care of these women who are not baganda
judging by their names, is a Muganda her self. This is effecting every body. To
help you out a little, I have highlighted the names out for you. I don't
understand why you're playing this tribal card in such a terible situation.
JN
Death in Mulago Hospital
Friday, 27th July, 2007 E-mail article Print article
Women sit in the labour ward corridor at Mulago
Babies die because mothers wait too long for caesarean
By Harriet Onyalla
DAVID died. He was just a day old. This chubby baby, who weighed
5.5kg at birth, bled to death because his umbilical cord had been cut 'badly'.
In fact, David was named after the shepherd boy in the Bible long
after his little heart stopped beating. The Alur culture demanded that either
way, he be named.
Every two hours, a baby dies at Mulago Hospital's maternity ward as a
result of birth-related complications. Hospital records indicate that on
average, nine babies die from birth-related complications every day, nine
little souls like David. This means, about 270 babies die every month.
"Some days, over 15 babies die," a hospital source, who spoke on
condition of anonymity, says.
David's only day in this world went terribly wrong. "We spent the
whole day at the hospital but nobody cared," his father, Clinton Oketcha,
narrates. "The baby was bleeding. The baby really cried. Then a nurse helped us
and put him on oxygen but she said we should pray because the machine was not
working properly."
Oketcha will forever be haunted by the blank face of the doctor to
whom he turned in desperation. "He just looked at me and walked away," he says
as a slight tremor creeps into his deep voice.
Mulago Hospital, Ward 5C, Sunday 9:00am: The air in the corridor of
the labour ward seems to stand still. Over 20 women in labour are sitting or
lying on the floor. "Musawo nyamba, nfaa!" (Doctor, help I am dying), one woman
wails.
She is kneeling on all fours. She jerks forward, then crawls rapidly
back. Groaning in pain, she puts her elbows on the cold, stained marble floor,
rising swiftly. The white blouse she is wearing slides over her shoulder,
leaving her naked.
"The baby is coming," another woman, swaying in pain next to her,
shouts. A third expecting mother sits calmly next to them, a stream of waterish
blood running from under her skirts towards the middle of the corridor. The
woman opposite her tries to move away from the blood running towards her. She
stands up, looks around, then slowly shakes her head and sits down again as her
wrapper gets soaked. There is no other place to sit. The corridor is packed to
capacity.
According to Dr. Samuel Kalisoke, the in-charge of Mulago's
gynaecology and obstetrics department, about 70 mothers are admitted and 60
deliver every day, yet the place was meant to cater for only 20. Some give
birth in the corridors. "We are delivering three times the number we are
supposed to handle," he says.
"Most of these mothers are referred from other hospitals when their
condition is already critical. In fact, many babies are born with the skin
already peeling off, meaning that they died 24 hours earlier."
On average, one third of the mothers received at Mulago need to
deliver by caesarean section. The operation theatre, which has only one bed,
handles an average of 18 mothers a day.
The doctors work day and night but hardly manage to cater for the
influx. A proper operation, including preparations, takes two hours. Some have
to wait for a day to find a slot.
"Many times we have 21 emergency operations," says nurse Rose Violet
Nakayiza. "Babies end up being born stressed or dead because the mothers waited
too long for the caesarean operation. Imagine you have 15 patients waiting for
an emergency operation, all of them in a critical condition. Whom do you
operate and whom do you leave out?"
Apart from lack of space and equipment, the maternity wing suffers
from acute lack of staff. There are between eight and 12 staff members for the
five wards at any one time, according to Dr. Kalisoke. These include nurses,
midwives and doctors.
"In the labour suite, there are only three staff to cater for over 60
mothers a day, yet there should be 24," he says.
Mulago is Uganda's national referral hospital. It has become the only
place where mothers around Kampala go to give birth. Most health centres around
the city shun women who are about to give birth because they lack the operation
facilities in case the delivery goes wrong.
Many private clinics only give antenatal care and refer the mother to
Mulago when the labour pain starts.
"Some refer the women when it is too late", explains nurse Nakayiza.
"They don't tell the women what the problem is or even notify us of the
condition of the patient and the reason for referral. Many times, the baby is
already dead in the womb. And when they come when we have a lot of work, it is
difficult to give them the attention they need. So the lives of the mothers are
also at risk."
Another problem, she says, is ignorance and poverty.
"Some mothers arrive here after labouring at home for days. "Others
don't have transport and are brought in by neighbours when it is very late.
Many times we are just helpless."
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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:48:40 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Baganda Can Clip Mu7's Wings? YES WE CAN KASIM.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charles you write quote "They UPC imporsed this monster called Museveni
on the people of Uganda and must suffer the consequences for ever."...
The UPC never imposed as you state "Monster Museveni " on the people of
Uganda... rather it is you fellows bana ba Gundi..who carnived with Museveni to
create chaos in Uganda..and you are now suffering the consequencies of your
stupidity... let Museveni take all the land...let him import more balalos to
take over this your so called baganda land..
And as far as stating that "UPC is suffering"..which cave have you been
in my friend..those suffering are you kinsmen at Mulago hospital.... who must
be treated by third rated medical assistants because the doctors are busy
attending to their clinics.... or there are simply no medicine to offer to the
sick....that is unless you have "kitu kidogo"...Suffer you sorry behind!!!
Matek
Charles Kibuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well Kasim, the war to change that mindset is on now. We're educating
the baganda and banyoro about the consequences of supporting Museveni. Some of
us are in advanced stages of preparations to permanently camp on the ground
back home for a very long time to see this through. You should remember how
Museveni gained this support in Buganda. That is how UPC comes into the picture
again, because had they controlled those unruly soldiers and stopped the
killings of baganda, then Museveni would have been irrelevant. Had UPC not
attacked Bulange and caused the death of the people's king, there wouldn't have
been a need for Museveni. They UPC imporsed this monster called Museveni on the
people of Uganda and must suffer the consequences for ever.
UPC is to blame because they created the demand for an alternative and
Museveni offered it at the time. But now Museveni is no longer a protector, but
rather the trouble causer in buganda. You can see for your self now that he is
planning to import more balalo into buganda. The grand plan is to make sure
that the entire buganda is totally colonised by people he thinks he might need
in the future when the going gets tough. These are the same people that brought
him into power in the first place you know. Coalitions are being formed slowly
but surely and we're making a slow but sure progress, so your Museveni can not
intimidate us with those guns that you're talking about. Alliances, will be
formed on this very forum, and every where else and we shall use our
constitutional rights to arm our ignorant people with information and knowledge
and that will work against Museveni.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
JN
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:02:46 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Baganda Can Clip Mu7's Wings.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That is day dreaming. Museveni has more support in Buganda than he
has in Western Uganda. Of the four million Baganda, only about 1.5 million
support the removal of Mu7.The rest still support him,especially those in rural
areas.
You cannot kick out a millitary man with only demonstrations. Tear
gas alone,before even he gets out his guns,will send you away. Government is,
to a great extent, insurmountable.
Kassim.
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Paul Mivumba
Then we make Dr Kiiza Besigye the next president with Museveni as a
Prime Minister and Kayinerugaba as a Minister of Defence, Janet Museveni as an
ambassador in UK as Winnie Byanyima will be posted in New York as a
representative to the UN, all that works out if Besigye moves faster than Konny
taking over for if Konny takes over, Winnie is history.
Next question?
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Paul Mivumba
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Baganda Can Clip Mu7's Wings.
After you have kicked M7 out, then what?
On 7/27/07, David Basobokwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fellows,
We are talking too much about how to remove Mu7 from the
Presidency. I just landed on an idea.
If we organised all the Baganda and their associates, would we
not kick this Mu7 out l;ike we kicked him out of Mabira? Some one on this forum
said the baganda are the biggest tribe in Uganda. Folks, this is the most
effective method.
David
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