Hello Fellow Ugandans and all our friends!
  I am extremely disappointed to read the accusations herein.
  Mulago was once a regional hospital because the  government of the day cared 
about the health of all Ugandans.  There  were also many "Mulagos" all over 
Uganda.  Then came military wars one after another in 1970s, the early 80s up 
to this day.   The Mulago doctors all along have continued to do their job with 
 professionalism even though the government of Uganda has neglected the  
hospital for years.  Today  government officials and their families fly to 
Europe and elsewhere for  treatment, on Ugandan taxpayers money; while Ugandans 
go to Mulago to  die as a last resort. The  professionals at Mulago do not 
treat tribes, they have always treated  patients.  Presently, there are so few 
professional doctors and  nurses at Mulago, that they cannot respond to all our 
needs as  Ugandans.  It has nothing to do with being a Muganda; never has  and 
never will.  I am one of those family members who lost a  surgeon operating on 
patients without proper gloves and other supplies 
 despite the AIDS epidemic all because of dedication and commitment to  saving 
lives.  
  Even if Mulago professionals were  on a mission to treat only Baganda; they 
would not know them.  In  Kampala everyone literally has a Kiganda name and 
speaks Luganda except  a few Tutsi Rwandis connected with the ruling class.  It 
would  take the Mulago doctors and nurses more time looking for Baganda to  
treat than just treating whoever comes in with whatever little they  have to 
offer.
  I strongly resent resent these accusations.  They are  misplaced.  I also 
have another brother who died recently due to  lack of needed equipment and 
medicine, but not because the doctors  didn't care.  If anyone  wants answers, 
they should go to the Ugandan Minister of Health and  stop attacking the 
underpaid, overworked medical professionals of  Mulago and other hospitals in 
the country.
  Thank you for reading my objection!  Let us pray for our country and our 
people.  The numerous wars are killing us all too early.  We have to emplore 
the SUPERNATURAL POWERS to help us out.  They are more than any of us as human 
being can handle.
  Have a super new week!  Thank God we are alive to write to each other.
  Sincerely,
  Assumpta Mary Kintu
  
  
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  Where did UPC kill Baganda as flies? Please use all pages   to explain.
   
  Em
  Toronto
   
   The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri   Museveni, Uganda is in   anarchy"
              Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans   l'anarchie"

      ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:     Charles     Kibuka 
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ; [email protected] 
    Cc: Florence Namutebi ; anna     akot 
    Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:52     PM
    Subject: Is Mulago only for baganda?     MATEK
    

 
 
The problem wih you Matek is that you     always write things with out thinking 
them through a little. I'm of the view     that you sould have read my email a 
little more carefully before replying. I     said that UPC created the demand 
for Museveni because they presided over a     governement that failed to 
control its soldiers. Even as bad as Museveni is,     his solders are not 
killing as many Ugandans out of the operational theater as     Obote's did. 
Your right, the Baganda supported Museveni during the bush war,     but only 
because they had no alternative. UPC was killed them like flies,     therefore 
the blame lies squarely on them, why can't you people really see     your 
mistakes and take responsibility? With regard to Mulago, I think you     have 
completly lost it here. I'm sure you read todays new vision story of     
mothers dieing while giving birth. If you did not, then read here below and     
tell me if the names mentioned there belong to only baganda. In
 fact the     nurse taking care of these women who are not baganda judging by 
their names,     is a Muganda her self. This is effecting every body. To help 
you out a little,     I have highlighted the names out for you. I don't 
understand why you're     playing this tribal card in such a terible situation. 
    
 
JN

 
                        Death in Mulago Hospital              Friday, 27th 
July, 2007                                                                      
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article                                                                         
                                              Women sit in the labour ward 
corridor at                 Mulago

Babies die because mothers           wait too long for caesarean 

By Harriet Onyalla           

DAVID died. He was just a day old. This chubby baby, who weighed           
5.5kg at birth, bled to death because his umbilical cord had been cut           
'badly'. 

In fact, David was named after the shepherd boy in the           Bible long 
after his little heart stopped beating. The Alur culture demanded that either 
way, he be           named. 

Every two hours, a baby dies at Mulago Hospital's           maternity ward as a 
result of birth-related complications. Hospital           records indicate that 
on average, nine babies die from birth-related           complications every 
day, nine little souls like David. This means, about           270 babies die 
every month. 

"Some days, over 15 babies die," a           hospital source, who spoke on 
condition of anonymity, says.           

David's only day in this world went terribly wrong. "We spent           the 
whole day at the hospital but nobody cared," his father,           Clinton 
Oketcha, narrates. "The           baby was bleeding. The baby really cried. 
Then a nurse helped us and put           him on oxygen but she said we should 
pray because the machine was not           working properly." 

Oketcha           will forever be haunted by the blank face of the doctor to 
whom he           turned in desperation. "He just looked at me and walked 
away," he says           as a slight tremor creeps into his deep voice. 

Mulago Hospital,           Ward 5C, Sunday 9:00am: The air in the corridor of 
the labour ward seems           to stand still. Over 20 women in labour are 
sitting or lying on the           floor. "Musawo nyamba, nfaa!" (Doctor, help I 
am dying), one woman           wails. 

She is kneeling on all fours. She jerks forward, then           crawls rapidly 
back. Groaning in pain, she puts her elbows on the cold,           stained 
marble floor, rising swiftly. The white blouse she is wearing           slides 
over her shoulder, leaving her naked. 

"The baby is           coming," another woman, swaying in pain next to her, 
shouts. A third           expecting mother sits calmly next to them, a stream 
of waterish blood           running from under her skirts towards the middle of 
the corridor. The           woman opposite her tries to move away from the 
blood running towards           her. She stands up, looks around, then slowly 
shakes her head and sits           down again as her wrapper gets soaked. There 
is no other place to sit.           The corridor is packed to capacity. 

According to Dr. Samuel           Kalisoke, the in-charge of Mulago's 
gynaecology and obstetrics           department, about 70 mothers are admitted 
and 60 deliver every day, yet           the place was meant to cater for only 
20. Some give birth in the           corridors. "We are delivering three times 
the number we are supposed to           handle," he says. 

"Most of these mothers are referred from other           hospitals when their 
condition is already critical. In fact, many babies           are born with the 
skin already peeling off, meaning that they died 24           hours earlier." 

On average, one third of the mothers received at           Mulago need to 
deliver by caesarean section. The operation theatre,           which has only 
one bed, handles an average of 18 mothers a day.           

The doctors work day and night but hardly manage to cater for           the 
influx. A proper operation, including preparations, takes two hours.           
Some have to wait for a day to find a slot. 

"Many times we have           21 emergency operations," says nurse Rose Violet  
         Nakayiza. "Babies end up being born stressed or dead           because 
the mothers waited too long for the caesarean operation. Imagine           you 
have 15 patients waiting for an emergency operation, all of them in           a 
critical condition. Whom do you operate and whom do you leave out?"           

Apart from lack of space and equipment, the maternity wing           suffers 
from acute lack of staff. There are between eight and 12 staff           
members for the five wards at any one time, according to Dr. Kalisoke.          
 These include nurses, midwives and doctors. 

"In the labour           suite, there are only three staff to cater for over 60 
mothers a day,           yet there should be 24," he says. 

Mulago is Uganda's national           referral hospital. It has become the only 
place where mothers around           Kampala go to give birth. Most health 
centres around the city shun women           who are about to give birth 
because they lack the operation facilities           in case the delivery goes 
wrong. 

Many private clinics only give           antenatal care and refer the mother to 
Mulago when the labour pain           starts. 

"Some refer the women when it is too late", explains           nurse Nakayiza. 
"They don't tell the women what the problem is or even           notify us of 
the condition of the patient and the reason for referral.           Many times, 
the baby is already dead in the womb. And when they come           when we have 
a lot of work, it is difficult to give them the attention           they need. 
So the lives of the mothers are also at risk."           

Another problem, she says, is ignorance and poverty.           

"Some mothers arrive here after labouring at home for days.           "Others 
don't have transport and are brought in by neighbours when it is           very 
late. Many times we are just helpless."

    
          
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      Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:48:40 -0700
From:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Baganda Can Clip Mu7's Wings? YES WE       CAN KASIM.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];       [email protected]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED];       [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Charles you write  quote "They UPC       imporsed this monster called Museveni 
on the people of Uganda and       must suffer the consequences for ever."...
The UPC never imposed as you state "Monster       Museveni " on the people of 
Uganda... rather it is you fellows bana ba       Gundi..who carnived with 
Museveni to create chaos in Uganda..and you are now       suffering the 
consequencies of your stupidity... let Museveni take all the       land...let 
him import more balalos to  take over this your so called       baganda land..

And as far as stating that "UPC is suffering"..which       cave have you been 
in my friend..those suffering are you kinsmen at Mulago       hospital.... who 
must be treated by third rated medical assistants because       the doctors are 
busy attending to their clinics.... or there are simply no       medicine to 
offer to the sick....that is unless you have "kitu       kidogo"...Suffer you 
sorry       behind!!!

Matek

Charles Kibuka       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                 .ExternalClass 
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Well Kasim, the war to change that mindset is on now.         We're educating 
the baganda and banyoro about the consequences of         supporting Museveni. 
Some of us are in advanced stages of preparations to         permanently camp 
on the ground back home for a very long time to see this         through. You 
should remember how Museveni gained this support in Buganda.         That is 
how UPC comes into the picture again, because had they         controlled those 
unruly soldiers and stopped the killings of baganda,         then Museveni 
would have been irrelevant. Had UPC not attacked         Bulange and caused the 
death of the people's king, there wouldn't have         been a need for 
Museveni. They UPC imporsed this monster called Museveni         on the people 
of Uganda and must suffer the consequences for         ever.
 
UPC is to blame because they created the demand for an         alternative and 
Museveni offered it at the time. But now Museveni is no         longer a 
protector, but rather the trouble causer in buganda. You can see         for 
your self now that he is planning to import more balalo into         buganda. 
The grand plan is to make sure that the entire buganda         is totally 
colonised by people he thinks he might need in the future when         the 
going gets tough. These are the same people that brought him into         power 
in the first place you know. Coalitions are being formed slowly but         
surely and we're making a slow but sure progress, so your Museveni         can 
not intimidate us with those guns that you're talking about.         Alliances, 
will be formed on this very forum, and every where         else and we shall 
use our constitutional rights to arm our ignorant         people with 
information and knowledge and that will work against Museveni.         
 
Where there is a will, there is a         way.
 
JN 


 
                  
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          Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:02:46 -0700
From:           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Baganda Can Clip Mu7's Wings.
To:           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED];           [EMAIL PROTECTED]

          That is day dreaming. Museveni has more support in Buganda than he    
       has in  Western Uganda. Of the four million Baganda, only about 1.5      
     million support the removal of Mu7.The rest still support him,especially   
        those in rural areas. 
           
          You cannot kick out a millitary man with only demonstrations. Tear    
       gas alone,before even he gets out his guns,will send you away.           
Government is, to a great extent, insurmountable.

          Kassim.
          
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>           wrote:
                                      Paul Mivumba
             
            Then we make Dr Kiiza Besigye the next             president with 
Museveni as a Prime Minister and Kayinerugaba as a             Minister of 
Defence, Janet Museveni as an ambassador in UK as Winnie             Byanyima 
will be posted in New York as a representative to the UN, all             that 
works out if Besigye moves faster than Konny taking over for             if 
Konny takes over, Winnie is history.
             
            Next question?
             
            Em
            Toronto
             
             The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni,             Uganda is in             anarchy"
                        Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda             est dans l'anarchie"

                          ----- Original Message ----- 
              From:               Jean               Paul Mivumba 
              To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]               
              Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007               5:29 PM
              Subject: Re: Baganda Can Clip               Mu7's Wings.
              

After you have kicked M7 out, then what?

              On 7/27/07, David Basobokwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>               
wrote:                               Fellows,
                We are talking too much about how to remove Mu7 from the        
         Presidency. I just landed on an idea. 
                If we organised all the Baganda and their associates, would     
            we not kick this Mu7 out l;ike we kicked him out of Mabira? Some    
             one on this forum said the baganda are the biggest tribe in        
         Uganda. Folks, this is the most effective method. 
                 
                David
                 
                
                
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