Mulindwa,
You are going nowhere with your idiocy of attacking Dr. Besigye who rebelled
from the NRA/M system almost ten years ago, while the architect of the killing
machine is still in power!!
Mu7 started the war; he organied the men and women who later presided over
the deaths of many Ugandans. Therefore, it is Mu7 and his hardline cahorts who
engineered and masterminded the killings of innocent Ugandans who must be
brought to justice!! Your idiocy of fighting the FDC when the engineer of the
genocide is still presiding over the institution that killed many Ugandans,
when the FDC as a party is as well fighting to boot that system out of power
show confused and wacky you have become.
The question of bringing justice into the country cannot be questioned. But
bringing that justice means ushering into the country change of guard first,
and that is the tasks both the FDC and other opposition parties must embark on,
and see it through. For you to even claim that Dr. Besigye has not even gone
through a commission of enquiry shows how out of touch you are with what are
merely dreams and what are realities!! Where is the commission of enquiry you
would like to take Dr. Besigye to?? Where is it? Who are those going to put in
place this commission of enquiry? Mu7 and his NRA/M??
Quite frankly if you don't know how to bring change into the country, just
keep silent. There are people languishing in camps; these peoples' need must be
taken care of first, and freed. There is need for them to become productive
citizens; not camp dwellers and unproductive citizens like the NRA/M government
has rendered them to be for the last decade!! You cannot fight everyone and
expect to win. If anything, that act alone, of employing dubious strategy is
going to draw attention onto you and your crazy struggle. So far your attacks
on Dr. Besigye and his FDC only reveal one thing: Attempting to perpetuate the
NRA/M in power!! But like I said before, I will say it again, there are people
suffering in camps in that country. Idiocy is therefore the last thing to be
encouraged!!
Much as you are at liberty to do what you please, the right of the many
people in camps overide that liberty. Therefore, meticulousness is the word
here, to bring about change.
You will convinced many readers if you can advocate for, or even participate
in, the killing of NRA/M card carrying members first; and I would love to see
that, before jumping on the nect of a rebel party like the FDC.
Ocii.
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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First of all you are changing what I am stating to make your point and that
is not fair, I have not in any of my postings asked for any one to be put on a
firing squad, but I have asked for every one to be held responsible for his or
her actions. Why do Ugandans have a problem with holding any leader responsible
for his action? MP Betty Kamya stood right here in this very forum and she
stated how she sent her own relatives to fight for Uganda. Ssenyonjo can the
very same MP today show us why we as Ugandans lost the lives of both her family
members, and the people they murdered in Luwero? What does MP Betty Kamya has
today in Uganda to show for all those deaths? And when you allow MP Betty Kamya
to walk free today and praising her self for she orchestrated a death of people
in Uganda, how far do you take this system of governance in Uganda? Who has a
right to sacrifice lives in Uganda for a later good as defined by that same
individual? And how does one reach that
distinction? Which brings back my question, can I as well today go into Uganda
and kill FDC card carrying members if I have a story to sell to Ugandans that
it is for their own good?
Yes reconciliation is very important, but so is the need of a very firm rule
of law that must be used to hold all those that created such a mess in our
people's lives to be held responsible for their actions in Uganda. Now if
Ugandans want to take them to trial it is fine for me, if through
reconciliation the Northerners as a people decide that we have suffered a great
deal but we have forgiven Dr. Kiiza Besigye who wrote the camping policy of the
Northerners, I'm sill fine with that. Look I am not here to set judgment I am
here to inform you the right way of doing things in any nation that will move
ahead. Questions must be asked and every one that was in the movement must
stand that trial, and must be present in the Inquiry, if there is no one biting
Dr. Kiiza Besigye I am still fine with it but if there is any evidence that he
was among those that killed Ugandans, then it has passed my jurisdiction, now
it is in the hands of Uganda's law.
But when we have a people like Dr. Kiiza Besigye, a people that have not even
passed through a commission of inquiry, a people that have not even been asked
a single question on their action in Luwero, a people that have decided to
ignore every single question asked to them either publicly in forums like these
or privately, even if you wrote a letter to their party head quarter, they
refuse to respond. And you stand up today to campaign for them then the task in
front of every on is clearly cut of educating Ugandans. For our people need to
know their rights. I have never seen such animosity as asking a Ugandan to hold
some one accountable, the discussion about creating an organisation of Ugandans
at heart foundation is a classic example. We are required today to start
sending money into bank accounts with out asking questions. Dr. Kiiza Besigye
must be supported and with out asking questions. It is interesting that you are
even asking for reconciliation when FDC does not
even want it, have you seen them asking for it? Besigye wants money to run a
political party not a reconciliation for he was not in Uganda politics all
along. All problems in Uganda were created single handedly by one a Yoweri
Museveni. Even Wafulla Oguttu who used Uganda press, inspite of the millions of
warnings we gave him in writing and face to face, to build Museveni to what he
is today, we cannot ask him questions either.
Michael in a word it is bizarre.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Senyonjo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: FDC WHAT A VERY CRUEL JOKE(Michale senyonjo)
EM,
I am for trial for reconciliation. I want to see a South Africa style 'truth
and reconciliation commission". I tell you what EM, I'm as bitter as you are.
But the tit for tat, eye for eye politics has to stop. I don't want anybody to
come and tell me who my enemy is when in fact I have no enemies. Not even in
my domestic life. At least I don't know about them! I have people I disagree
with politically but that does not make them my enemies.
Should Museveni stand for trial? Yes he should. But for the purpose of 'us'
knowing the truth. EM, do you really want to see a firing squad in Kampala?
How has this sort of action brought order to Iraq?
Michael Senyonjo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:07:57 -0400
Subject: FDC WHAT A VERY CRUEL JOKE(Michale senyonjo)
Michael Ssenyonjo
I think we are agreeing with each other it is the method of implementation we
defer from. What we are talking about here is not a far fetched love story but
a life of real people and real graves and real orphans. So I wonder who are you
going to reconciliate with and who not to? Can Yoweri Museveni come in as well
or we are leaving him out? And if you leave him out why don't you leave out Dr
Kiiza Besigye? But let me make my question very simple, as you are considering
these people that killed our people and continue to do so, what is your cut off
line as you are planning this reconciliation gesture? For some killed in Luwero
and moved out of the government but the policies they wrote in Uganda are still
on Uganda books and used to terrorize our people. Are the policies coming too
or we are leaving them behind?
When governments kill people they create an agony into society and that
society will detest the same leaders. I do not see Colonel Samson Mande ever
returning into Northern Uganda and get any respect. That will not happen. As I
do not see any Konny standing in Gulu and people listening to him that will not
happen either, irrespective how reconciliated this government you will create.
That is why my very humble suggestion has always been very simple, let us clean
up the plate and start afresh. Uganda doubles its population every twenty years
we do not have a problem with people replacing these men and women, and they
don't have a God appointment to run our country for life. No they do not. It is
very dangerous to lead away with a term reconciliation and not holding people
responsible for their actions. For that kind of reasoning means that our
problem is Yoweri Museveni and Museveni alone and I am afraid that is very
simplistic analysis. When one reads your sentence one
can interpret it to mean that you are even willing to sit with Museveni and
reconciliate with him to hold another political position in Uganda if not get
re elected.
Well after all in your reconciliation that has been done with out holding
any one to account, why not?
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Senyonjo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: FFDC WHAT A VERY CRUEL JOKE(Michale senyonjo)
EM,
We have to find reconciliation at some point. Yesterday it may have been
Ogolle and Museveni killing in Luwero. Today and for the last 21 years it has
been Museveni and Kony killing in the North. Who will be killing 2moro and
where? This cycle of violence and hatred has to stop.
Michael Senyonjo
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:59:22 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FFDC WHAT A VERY CRUEL JOKE(Michale senyonjo)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael,
Dont waste your time with Mulindwa's personal hatred of FDC.Fee
twamumanyila.I told you people here that Besigye was abroad to raise money for
his party and that is very good.Mulindwa does not want people who give put
money to help causes.So why waste your time with him? Besigye was in USA
purposely to rsaise money for FDC. tHOSE who have money to give, please help
this party.It is very broke.
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michael Senyonjo
Please do not insult my intelligence, these people are killers and I can full
well call them what they are. What do you think can happen today? You want us
to sit and forget those that were murdered for they believed in a political
party? You think it is that easy? No sir because when they died they left
orphans they left collapsed businesses but most of all Luwero was left in
disarray. And as you are sitting on the bones of our dead to build a future
political manoeuvre let me remind you sir that when we go into Luwero and we
see a tree ender which a man was sitting every morning we remember him, so
forgetting them is not going to be easy as you take it.There has to be
questions asked and the FDC leadership must provide answers than playing
Ugandans in the same camp as the Movement does. For the Movement does not give
answers neither does FDC. You started a culture in Uganda of murdering people
due to their political belief, what is so wrong with me today calling for a
bullet for each FDC card carrying member?
I am not taking it personal it was created and born personal. And what I
expect from a man of your calibre is to join me and we ask for justice for the
people that murdered by these goons due to their political beliefs. My God what
happened to holding people accountable?
Do you think you own the Uganda population where you simply go and kill and
walk away?
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Senyonjo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: FFDC WHAT A VERY CRUEL JOKE
Hello EM,
I think you're taking this hatred to a personal level. There's nothing wrong
about selling FDC cards and you should be focused on finding out how the NRMO
is funded and why it has not submitted its accounts to the Registrar General.
This is what a true democrats would do instead of attacking parties that are
seeking funding legitimately.
Michael Senyonjo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:17:05 -0400
Subject: FFDC WHAT A VERY CRUEL JOKE
Ugandans
This is the part when Uganda politics gets interesting. How does any one
start to sell party cards when he was a part and parcel into those that killed
a people for holding political beliefs? And I ask should we as Ugandans today
start a campaign to kill every FDC card carrying member? I wonder if Wafulla
Oguttu can answer that question but as always he will not. It is not only
Museveni we need out of power but half the FDC leadership must get out as well
and they will.
It is only when.
EM
Toronto
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FDC launches party card sale in London Michael Bagampagye
London
Forum for Democratic Change party president Kizza Besigye launched the sale of
party cards at Conway hall, in Holborn, Central London last week. At the
function organised by FDC UK chapter, Dr Besigye told Ugandans in the Diaspora
of FDC's developments, future plans and challenges.
He said the patry had used civic education to tell Ugandans that they need to
hold their leaders accountable other than being accountable to their leaders.
He said, "Ugandans need to be more assertive and it's the duty of the leaders
to make them aware of their rights."
Asked about possible rebellion, Dr Besigye told the gathering that if all
options available for changing the situation in Uganda are exhausted, there
will be no alternative but for the people to resort to violence. However he
made it clear that violence might not solve the problem in Uganda if people are
not educated about their rights.
He blamed President Museveni's government for mishandling of the budget
allocations. He criticised the government for allocating over Shs150 billion to
the preparation for GHOGM while cutting budgets like for agriculture and the
health sector which are more important to Ugandans.
About the Balaalo situation, he blamed the government policy that seemed to
favour the cattle keepers thereby creating an air of resentment amongst other
Ugandans. He gave an example of the government arming the Balaalo.
On the flood situation in east and northern Uganda, Dr Besigye said the floods
were highlighting the problems faced in these regions. He said although
research shows that 38 per cent of Ugandans are below the poverty line, in the
north and eastern part of Uganda it's over 70 per cent that are below the
poverty line.
He also encouraged Ugandans in the Diaspora to contribute to the party. He said
Ugandans who contribute towards FDC are persecuted by the government and
sometimes loose jobs or businesses.
Other speakers at the function were; FDC vice president Salamu Musumba, FDC
European envoy Sam Akaki, FDC electoral commissioner Rubaramira Ruranga, Col
John Ogole and FDC UK Chapter coordinator Charles Okwir.
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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