So, to you, the Mu7s can hate an entire groups of people, but when the Mu7s are
hated, then the party, that in your mind, comprise of people who hate an
individual like Mu7 "cant last long". Don't tell me this is a JOKE!!
Yes, if thats how you want it, there are personal scores to be settle with
the Mu7s who went to the bush on false claim of rigged election, yet they have
now rigged elections; killed people; looted and still looting the economy!!
Definitely there are personal scores to be carried out on those indivduals,
if that is how you want to look at it. It is your choice. The choice of
Ugandans generally, however, I believe, is to bring sanity in that country.
That means throwing away idiocy of fighting for rigged election, killing many
people in the process, and then rig elections thereafter!
Only buffoons will think such political stupidity is okay; and would fight to
their death to defend it.
We are not children Jose Lukyamuzi. Wake the hell up now, or you will find
yourself fighting wars you don't to fight.
Ocii
jose lukyamuzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
TIME WILL TELL bcoz a party that has no other agenda but hatred for a
particular person cant last long.Most of the top gurus in FDC just have some
personal scores to settle with M7 or some elements in the NRM.
Desmond Nzaana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mzee Mulindwa/ Lukyamuzi
Yes what Lukyamuzi has stated you have stated before, that you agree does not
mean you are right, you are simply both wrong. FDC remains the fastest growing
party in Uganda and that is not about to change. The factors causing this I
once gave you here. but to sumarise. The continuing decay of the NRM and the
historical and present weaknesses of DP and UPC are a big part of the
explanation. All FDC has to do is keep looking better than UPC DP and NRM and
we all know that is a very easy job.
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ugandans
Now tell me one sentence that Jose Lukyamuzi has posted here that I did not
state way back. And I want only one sentence. And let me repeat that if FDC
cleans up its self at this time by doing some very basic things, I do not see
FDC as an opposition in coming election for they truly have absolutely no
support in the population.
Lukyamuzi thank you very much for what you have written, for every body is
soon going back to where he or she should have belonged. And that is because
FDC's lies now are clear to slow thinkers we only saw them before for we are
critical thinker.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: jose lukyamuzi
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: DP no longer for truth and justice(Semuwemba)
Bro. Abbey,
you just have got to return home and get to know the
real situation of Uganda's politics while on ground.To begin with the Media
owes us nothing and we dont ask any favours from it.However the perception you
get when you read Ugandan media output is that as per now there are only two
political parties yet this is just a mere illusion. You must be knowing it that
FDC is living on borrowed support.FDC came to the fore front bcoz all the
disgruntled people thought that Besigye as a former soldier and close M7 ally
was the best option when looking for someone to send M7 packing but they have
come to realise that it was a wrong assumption so just wait for 2011 and you
will get to realise that a Traditional Political party is very hard to erase.
Another dimension that you do miss since you arent on ground is how monetirised
your country's politics is.FDC being a real offshoot of the NRM is playing
politics the real NRM way. Some time back and may be even
now,its been hard to lash out at FDC in the Monitor Newspaper just bcoz of the
little influence that Wafula Oguttu
still wields in that paper. So the problem DP is facing is that its being
fought by two forces,i.e the NRM which very much fears a strong DP than a
stronger FDC and FDC which wants to conmsolidate the borrowed support.Beti
Kamya pours out money to those who ring into Radio talk shows so that they can
sing FDC propaganda and she recently even distributed Boda Boda motorcycles to
this group.FDC has even employed a one Tom Julunga to always just lash out at
DP so we are countering all these moves silently,which is to say that the time
for open war is gonna come.
Abbey dont think that FDC can ever surpass UPC in real support in Lango
and so is it with DP in Buganda.As for NRM that is God's case for only the
almighty can save it from extinction the day it leaves power.
abbey semuwemba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OJ,
I think the country is resigned now to mailnly two parties:NRMO and FDC.Even
the media is not helping those other parties at all.I was today reading the
newspapers on Idill-Day and unsuprisingly it was only Besigye and Musevni who
were represented as the only political forces in the country.Besigye was
presented in a small picture Bukedde dressed in a muslim attire duriing Iddil
prayers at Kasubi while Museveni was presented in big pictures in both New
Vision and Bukedde with Mubajje along his side and they were serving muslims a
dinner at Hotel Africana.To be honest, i take ages to read the name sebana
Kizito or Kalaule Obote in newspapers.These parties need to do something to
rebrand themselves.Otherwise, they are heading to a desert without food and
water.Brother Mulindwa is not gonna agree with me on this one but that is the
truth.
Abbey.K.S
========================================
Message Received: Oct 12 2007, 10:47 PM
From: "okurut simon peter"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: DP no longer for truth and justice
OJ
There is this problem of ever thinking about government, power, party and so
forth. This is mainly the reason why people do whatever comes their way in
order to be in or retain power.
We also have to know that not all people can be leaders or good leaders.
There are usually few leaders among people. The majority of people are
followers, why do we think DP does not have good leaders? In my opinion we do
not need to judge people by the work they do before taking up political
offices. The two are quite different, while the former requires one to be
learned in order to get knowledge obtained from training in a particular
discipline, apply for the job, get shortlisted and finally do interviews and if
successful, one then takes up the job; the latter does not require to go
through such a process; a politician is an elected person, all that he needs
is to be educated and be a leader. May be the people in KCC whom Jabwe calls
DPs got those jobs without going through all process of recruitment and
moreover they may be followers, not leaders!
DPs can lead that country but they do not need to wait for such an
opportunity in order to serve Uganda, but already there are many DPs in
political and other civil positions where they are rendering a good service.
Simon.
oryema johnson wrote:
Tom Jabwe,
Why is it that solutions to Uganda's problems are only
based on this or that person/party being in power? And
this power only means president or government. Now you
are saying that DP might even be more corrupt when
they come into power whenever that is. What is this
obsession with governments and power?
I believe there are many many DP members who can do
much much better, develop Uganda and bring it up to
date without necesarily being in government. One does
not need to be the president of Uganda to own and run
a dairy farm for example. Instead of thinking one can
only resolve poverty by being in government, let us be
creative and resolve our problems without being in
government.
OJ
--- tom jabwe wrote:
> DP is no longer for truth and justice if we are to
> go by what the DP members in KCC has dealt with
> public prperty.I have fears if DP goes into power
> its members could even be more corrupt than NRM
> members.
>
> Jean Paul Mivumba wrote: The
> people agitating for Mengo come from many different
> parties. One time they wer being called FDC, now DP.
> At any rate, People in Buganda belong to several
> different parties.
>
> On 10/10/07, Edward Mulindwa
> wrote: Jose Lukyamuzi
>
> As much as you are right, I fear the militarism
> sector you have introduced and I fear your hiding
> into we love Mengo and we are fighting for Buganda,
> when you actually have your own agenda's, those two
> issues can kill a political party. And I make this
> submission now that you have declared your self to
> be a DP member.
>
> Ugandans do you remember when I stated that those
> agitating for Mengo are DP members?
>
> EM
> Toronto
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
> l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jose lukyamuzi
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Now DP is also about to have a
> funeral(Day dreaming)
>
>
> The Democratic Party can never die or
> phase out.When there is still a cause to fight for
> we will always be there.We have survived through the
> thick and thin of Uganda's turbulent politics,our
> leaders have been killed and murdered,the party has
> been occasionally banned but we have always arisen
> and returned and taken on the struggle.Tell me how
> many parties in African politics have survived all
> this long without ever getting into power? I have
> always told people that people may die,nations might
> rise and fall,but an idea lives on. So DP is an idea
> that is meant to survive the test of time.DP is not
> only a political party but a way of life that has
> got to be lived.There is no single day when Truth
> and Justice will be completly erased from this
> planet Earth thus DP as a Party is like a river that
> is always flowing and never stagnates.
>
>
> Edward Mulindwa wrote:
> Uganda needs to set us a minimum requirement of
> becoming a registered political party, having stated
> that we need to start to fund the recognised
> political parties.
>
> EM
> Toronto
>
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
> l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean Paul Mivumba
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Now DP is also about to have a
> funeral
>
>
> These are the same old tricks. Before some
> referendum a few year ago, numerous political
> parties came up. That is the problem you get when
> everybody wants to the leader.
>
> On 10/9/07, Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi
> wrote: I remember
> a party with a similar name registered by FDC
> Kampala Woman MP Nabeelah Naggayi. Is it the same
> party? Does it mean that eventually it will be the
> party of Mayor Nasser Ntege Ssebaggala and a handful
> of some MPs in and Councillors in Buganda and
> Busoga? Hajjati Nabeelah Naggayi owes us an
> explanation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Now DP is also about to have a
> funeral
>
>
>
> Good luck. But, this looks a tight rope to walk.
>
> Usually, a social democratic party emanate from the
> people ( worker and other disadvantaged /
> marginalised minority groups). Literally translated,
> it is about justified share of resourses and
> solidarity.
>
> O.k., Uganda has developed potential business class
> and the gap between the have and have-nots is
> alarming. Question is if that is potential enough to
> boost a social democratic ideology.
>
> The way I would have done, is to anchored a social
> democratic party to the workers and the various
> unions.
>
> Seems like next elections gonna be not only
> interestiong but intricate too. Can wait to see the
> SDP, UPC and NRM /Movement wooing the same grazing
> land. A least the FDC has it's "aristocratic" core.
> Good luck
> Noc'la gaumoy
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Now DP is also about to have a
> funeral
> > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:05:28 -0700
> >
> >
> > DP splits as rival group registers new political
> party
> > ROBERT MWANJE
> > KAMPALA
> >
> > THE rift in the Democratic Party has widened with
> a section of
> > supporters saying they have abandoned the
> mainstream and formed a new
> > party registered as the Social Democratic Party
> (SDP).
> >
> > Little known Henry Lubowa, who was defeated in the
> Kampala City
> > Council youth councillor race for Lubaga Division,
> said yesterday he
> > is the national coordinator for SDP.
> >
> > He said a section of DP members have resolved to
> register another
> > party to "develop their political ideologies."
> > He said the new party was formed after realising
> that DP could not
> > serve their political interests and philosophy.
> > TROUBLE? Ssebaana
> >
> >
> > "We have registered a new party as the Social
> Democratic Party and we
> > expect to launch it at Nakivubo Stadium before the
> end of this year,"
> > Mr Lubowa said in a phone interview with the Daily
> Monitor. "We have
> > started our recruitment drive in Mukono District.
> We shall visit other
> > districts all over the country".
> >
> > He said Makindye East Member of Parliament Mr
> Michael Mabike is one of
> > the party founder members and other key opposition
> MPs from the Forum
> > for Democratic Change (FDC). Mr Mabikke could not
> be reached to
> > confirm because he was not picking his phone.
> >
> > Without mentioning names, Mr Lubowa said over five
> MPs have joined SDP
> > and that the party's first national delegates
> conference will be held
> > soon to elect the party leadership. He said the
> party has a number of
> > "big people" supporting it.
> > "This is not the right time to unveil every
> thing," he said.
> >
>
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