okecho,
   
  Professional journalists would not even touch the angle you brought on into 
the discussion re: "What has caused their sporadic movement in the last one 
year? Is it coincidental that when oil discoveries are made that is when they 
found the need to look for new grazing land?"!
   
  You just nailed it! 
   
  And considering that most professional so called journalists are not 
independent of the western conglomerates and their communication empires, how 
the hell are they going to bring in a more enlightend views to exposed the 
serious point you raised above?
   
  Not a chance! Not when the NRA/M is an agent of imperialism!
   
  Ocii

okecho Dominic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Land issues in Uganda today need a deeper analysis than what most of us 
fall for. Do you really think it is the enmity that Luwero caused that is 
responsible for this outrage from the locals in Apac? The complaints from these 
people were registered long ago, but what did the central government do to have 
the situation under control? Do these people intend to provoke the locals into 
a war? How many are they- the herdsmen. What has caused their sporadic movement 
in the last one year? Is it coincidental that when oil discoveries are made 
that is when they found the need to look for new grazing land? Were these oil 
well discovered recently or the colonial government knew about this but was 
burdened by "the barbaric demands for independence" and decided to abandon the 
project as it withdrew to the backstage where it would control the socio- 
economic direction of the Great lakes region from the comfort of London?
   
  We are in immeasurable need of professional journalists to give in-depth 
analysis of the prevailing issues and not those that are intimidated by the 
fear of losing their jobs. 
   
  Dominic
  Kampala
Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      Mt.Johnson Oryema, i agree with you that there is no longer freeland. 
Even the so called grazing land in the Noerth and East will go away. What has 
happened to Buliisa District which so called public land was divided into 
grazing, cultivating and fishing? Now the cultivating has been bought by 
pastoralists who say that the grazing part is not enough to all of them. There 
should be a proper planning for both ranches and daory farms. On my part i 
encourage mixed farming. Former Ankole-Masaka Ranching Scheme where my home 
district falls, should be properly planned. Rge area has proved good for dairy 
cattle. Then beef can be in the North and North East including Karamoja, Teso, 
Lango and Acholi. Agricultural (Both for crop and animal husbandry) zoning 
should not be in words but should be actual.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: oryema johnson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
  

Mr. Ahmed,

Nomadism will be hard to control without a planned and organized ranching. In 
the State of Texas, there are many many cows, but all these are in fences fed 
with hay that is grown. Even the empty lands on which there are no cows are all 
fenced.

These balalo were safe, before Ugandans realized that land was important. In 
the 70s these cows used to feed freely and wonder all over our land in Luweero. 
The only time we would go after them was when they began eating lumonde and 
muwogo.

Now, they are no longer allowed even to come close to the empty lands. Ahmed, 
the Luweero war did a major damge to our public relations in Uganda, created 
more enemity as well as openning eyes wide, mostly for negative reasons. Since 
NRM is staying put, they need to consider this normadism very seriously
OJ

Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:       But political leaders 
will be responsible for the mass kill of pastoralists and animals in Northern 
Uganda. I remember well how the Bakanye were chased out of Lango in 1979 after 
the fall of Idi Amin, they were almost done the same in Busoga, Bukedi and Teso 
during the insurgency in the east in mid eighties. We have not forogotten how 
the Baganda were chased out of Kibaale after 1964 Referendum. Those ugly 
eposodes we should forgive and forget and we start afresh.
  These nomadic balaalo can be barred from entering some agricultural areas and 
government itself should be tough on nomadism. But barring one ethenic group 
from setlling in any part of the country will set a bad precedent. I don't 
encourage nomadism and squating and i have a lot of respect for land ownership 
and small holdings (bibanja) but we should be careful with our utterances and 
actions. The north has its own problems and should not be tainted more. bUT THE 
PASTORALISTS SHOULD BE FORCED TO SELL SOME OF THEIR HERDS AND BUY LAND AND 
PRACTISE MIXED FARMING. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Mulindwa 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
  

  At a certain point one has to agree that every Mulaalo sitting in Northern 
Uganda is not only dead but so is his/her cow. It is only when.
   
  EM
Toronto
   
   The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ekissodde Ekissodde 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:03 AM
  Subject: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
  

    What a great example to be emulatede by Ugandans being terrorized in their 
villages by these marauders!

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Abu Senkayi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:50:15 PM
Subject: [UNAANET] Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle

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Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle  
Samuel O. Egadu  
APAC 
RESIDENTS of Tarogali parish in the northern district of Apac yesterday 
attacked a host of herdsmen there and speared hundreds of their cattle.
Eyewitnesses told Daily Monitor that about 200 cattle were killed and another 
200 injured in the Monday morning attack.
  "I am seeing several heads of cattle that have been killed by angry 
residents. They are about 200. Those injured through spears, hoes and pangas 
could be 200," an eyewitness who declined to be named for fear of reprisals 
said in an interview.
Police estimates, however, put the number of the dead or injured cattle at 
between 100-200 animals.
  "We are not certain of the exact number of cattle killed or injured by the 
angry residents. I am hearing it's between 100 -200," Police Spokesman Asan 
Kasingye said by telephone yesterday.
  Mr Kasingye, however, referred this reporter to the northern regional police 
commander, Mr Arinatwe Katurebe or his CID counterpart, Mr Vincent Ouma for 
details.
When contacted yesterday, Mr Ouma said he was on his way to the scene. "…We 
delayed to leave Gulu due to logistical problems," Mr Ouma said.
  "The information I am getting is that many cows were killed and several 
others injured. I cannot tell the exact number. Our team on the ground is 
trying to search for the cattle. I am told some cows have run in disarray," he 
said.
  By press time, area members of Parliament said about 71 cattle had been 
killed.
Heavily armed anti riot and mobile patrol police from Gulu and Lira commanded 
by the northern regional CID chief, Vincent Ouma rushed to Apac yesterday 
afternoon.
Apac woman MP, Betty Amongi and the area MP, David Ebong (Maruzi County) said 
71 cattle had been speared.
  "I don't want to blame the residents for their action since the government 
deliberately ignored our peoples' pleas for the relocation of the pastoralists. 
The people run out of patience this morning and attacked the marauding 
pastoralists. They killed 71 cattle," Mr Ebong told Daily Monito r in an 
interview.
  "The people did this to protect their land and gardens of crops. They could 
not allow the pastoralists to continue trespassing on their land and destroying 
their crops," he said.
  Amongi said, "This is not a new issue. We tried to use all the available 
peaceful means for the pastoralist to leave but they ignored. After several 
pleas for them to leave, the residents had no option but to go for their 
cattle. They killed about 71," Ms Amongi told Daily Monitor.
  "The people were provoked by the pastoralists. These headsmen are too 
arrogant. They kept on rearing their cattle in people’s gardens," she said. 
Adding, "Some of them have guns. 
  In western Uganda, the Balaalo clashed with the Bagungu in Bullisa. The 
indigenous Bagungu want the Balaalo moved from the grazing lands in Bullisa.  




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