Ugandans
Who made the oil discovery when we knew the existence of that oil during Obote
one? And on record AGAIN. No one will drill that oil and no the Movement will
not drill it. So don't loose your day jobs people for this discussion has taken
place already under Obote one, under Iddi Amin and under Binayisa. They all
wanted to drill and the answer was a simply No. This is an international issue
and not as simple as Museveni saying that let us go now and drill. And Uganda
government can be as hyped about this oil as all it wants but there will not be
any one drilling that oil today.
And that statement is as good as a Canadian dollar.
EM
Toronto
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----- Original Message -----
From: ocii
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
okecho,
Professional journalists would not even touch the angle you brought on into
the discussion re: "What has caused their sporadic movement in the last one
year? Is it coincidental that when oil discoveries are made that is when they
found the need to look for new grazing land?"!
You just nailed it!
And considering that most professional so called journalists are not
independent of the western conglomerates and their communication empires, how
the hell are they going to bring in a more enlightend views to exposed the
serious point you raised above?
Not a chance! Not when the NRA/M is an agent of imperialism!
Ocii
okecho Dominic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Land issues in Uganda today need a deeper analysis than what most of us
fall for. Do you really think it is the enmity that Luwero caused that is
responsible for this outrage from the locals in Apac? The complaints from these
people were registered long ago, but what did the central government do to have
the situation under control? Do these people intend to provoke the locals into
a war? How many are they- the herdsmen. What has caused their sporadic movement
in the last one year? Is it coincidental that when oil discoveries are made
that is when they found the need to look for new grazing land? Were these oil
well discovered recently or the colonial government knew about this but was
burdened by "the barbaric demands for independence" and decided to abandon the
project as it withdrew to the backstage where it would control the socio-
economic direction of the Great lakes region from the comfort of London?
We are in immeasurable need of professional journalists to give in-depth
analysis of the prevailing issues and not those that are intimidated by the
fear of losing their jobs.
Dominic
Kampala
Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mt.Johnson Oryema, i agree with you that there is no longer freeland.
Even the so called grazing land in the Noerth and East will go away. What has
happened to Buliisa District which so called public land was divided into
grazing, cultivating and fishing? Now the cultivating has been bought by
pastoralists who say that the grazing part is not enough to all of them. There
should be a proper planning for both ranches and daory farms. On my part i
encourage mixed farming. Former Ankole-Masaka Ranching Scheme where my home
district falls, should be properly planned. Rge area has proved good for dairy
cattle. Then beef can be in the North and North East including Karamoja, Teso,
Lango and Acholi. Agricultural (Both for crop and animal husbandry) zoning
should not be in words but should be actual.
----- Original Message -----
From: oryema johnson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
Mr. Ahmed,
Nomadism will be hard to control without a planned and organized
ranching. In the State of Texas, there are many many cows, but all these are in
fences fed with hay that is grown. Even the empty lands on which there are no
cows are all fenced.
These balalo were safe, before Ugandans realized that land was
important. In the 70s these cows used to feed freely and wonder all over our
land in Luweero. The only time we would go after them was when they began
eating lumonde and muwogo.
Now, they are no longer allowed even to come close to the empty lands.
Ahmed, the Luweero war did a major damge to our public relations in Uganda,
created more enemity as well as openning eyes wide, mostly for negative
reasons. Since NRM is staying put, they need to consider this normadism very
seriously
OJ
Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But political leaders will be responsible for the mass kill of
pastoralists and animals in Northern Uganda. I remember well how the Bakanye
were chased out of Lango in 1979 after the fall of Idi Amin, they were almost
done the same in Busoga, Bukedi and Teso during the insurgency in the east in
mid eighties. We have not forogotten how the Baganda were chased out of Kibaale
after 1964 Referendum. Those ugly eposodes we should forgive and forget and we
start afresh.
These nomadic balaalo can be barred from entering some agricultural
areas and government itself should be tough on nomadism. But barring one
ethenic group from setlling in any part of the country will set a bad
precedent. I don't encourage nomadism and squating and i have a lot of respect
for land ownership and small holdings (bibanja) but we should be careful with
our utterances and actions. The north has its own problems and should not be
tainted more. bUT THE PASTORALISTS SHOULD BE FORCED TO SELL SOME OF THEIR HERDS
AND BUY LAND AND PRACTISE MIXED FARMING.
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Mulindwa
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
At a certain point one has to agree that every Mulaalo sitting in
Northern Uganda is not only dead but so is his/her cow. It is only when.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ekissodde Ekissodde
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:03 AM
Subject: Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle(Kateregga)
What a great example to be emulatede by Ugandans being terrorized
in their villages by these marauders!
----- Original Message ----
From: Abu Senkayi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:50:15 PM
Subject: [UNAANET] Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle
Apac residents kill Balaalo cattle
Samuel O. Egadu
APAC
RESIDENTS of Tarogali parish in the northern district of Apac
yesterday attacked a host of herdsmen there and speared hundreds of their
cattle.
Eyewitnesses told Daily Monitor that about 200 cattle were killed
and another 200 injured in the Monday morning attack.
"I am seeing several heads of cattle that have been killed by
angry residents. They are about 200. Those injured through spears, hoes and
pangas could be 200," an eyewitness who declined to be named for fear of
reprisals said in an interview.
Police estimates, however, put the number of the dead or injured
cattle at between 100-200 animals.
"We are not certain of the exact number of cattle killed or
injured by the angry residents. I am hearing it's between 100 -200," Police
Spokesman Asan Kasingye said by telephone yesterday.
Mr Kasingye, however, referred this reporter to the northern
regional police commander, Mr Arinatwe Katurebe or his CID counterpart, Mr
Vincent Ouma for details.
When contacted yesterday, Mr Ouma said he was on his way to the
scene. ".We delayed to leave Gulu due to logistical problems," Mr Ouma said.
"The information I am getting is that many cows were killed and
several others injured. I cannot tell the exact number. Our team on the ground
is trying to search for the cattle. I am told some cows have run in disarray,"
he said.
By press time, area members of Parliament said about 71 cattle
had been killed.
Heavily armed anti riot and mobile patrol police from Gulu and
Lira commanded by the northern regional CID chief, Vincent Ouma rushed to Apac
yesterday afternoon.
Apac woman MP, Betty Amongi and the area MP, David Ebong (Maruzi
County) said 71 cattle had been speared.
"I don't want to blame the residents for their action since the
government deliberately ignored our peoples' pleas for the relocation of the
pastoralists. The people run out of patience this morning and attacked the
marauding pastoralists. They killed 71 cattle," Mr Ebong told Daily Monito r in
an interview.
"The people did this to protect their land and gardens of crops.
They could not allow the pastoralists to continue trespassing on their land and
destroying their crops," he said.
Amongi said, "This is not a new issue. We tried to use all the
available peaceful means for the pastoralist to leave but they ignored. After
several pleas for them to leave, the residents had no option but to go for
their cattle. They killed about 71," Ms Amongi told Daily Monitor.
"The people were provoked by the pastoralists. These headsmen are
too arrogant. They kept on rearing their cattle in people's gardens," she said.
Adding, "Some of them have guns.
In western Uganda, the Balaalo clashed with the Bagungu in
Bullisa. The indigenous Bagungu want the Balaalo moved from the grazing lands
in Bullisa.
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