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"  Question is why is Mulindwa pretending to be fighting neo-colonialism then?? 
Better yet, is Mulindwa REALLY fighting neo-colonialism as he would like to 
have Africans believe??"

I am simply telling you the facts as they are, and what we need to do as 
Africans is to work out a solution based on the problems we have. Or we will be 
like  James Ololo and Chifu Wa Malindi who are still waiting for Raila Odinga 
to be sworn in. We will never solve our problems until when we face them and 
then get a starting point. I kept on telling members here that you know however 
hyped up you all are but the British government has decided that the winner of 
this election must be Mwai Kibaki. James Ololo decided to abandon that message 
and he went to buy the champagne to celebrate Raila's winning. Given the cards 
we had on the table, any one to contemplate a win of Raila Odinga one had to 
have woken up in the 17th century. We should have used my posting to work out a 
plan B, apparently Kenyans like Chifu Wa Malindi translated my posting as a 
Mwai Kibaki supporter. Now watch this saga let it calm down then you will see a 
real hard hand from the government and I can bet the Western Intelligences now 
have an open door to enter all your forces and all your services. You refused 
to ask a simple question, what can we do to see that the British plan of having 
Kibaki in power does not succeed.

You used that strength and intelligence to attack Edward Mulindwa who by the 
way lives in Toronto.


EM
Toronto


   The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is under anarchy"
      Groupe de Communication Mulindwas
"Avec Yoweri Museveni, L'Ouganda East Dans L'anarchie"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Africare- NewPublications 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Abuja Nigeria ; Africare Publications ; Africa-oped ; Afrocentrik ; Voice 
Of Uganda ; IgboEvents ; Camnetwork 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [panafricanistforum] Re: [Mwananchi] Africa Action Calls For 
U.S. Leadership to Support Democracy



  James,

  If Africans keep on listening to that scarecraw, they shall never never ever 
take control of events in their countries. 

  Whatever America is doing cannot be of our concerns. People cannot be scared 
off because to some individuals claiming that America "has entered the fray"! 
So what if America entered the fray? America has been in the many political 
frays in Africa for ages. For example, DR. Congo; Sudan: Darfur; Somalia, and 
may other places! 

  For an African to even opine that we should hand-off the efforts to bring 
into Kenya democratic dispensation, is way too mischievious. People are dying; 
million of people live in squalid conditions! It is only Africans who can 
change this situation, not America. America is doing what it can do to cater 
for the interests of her citizens!! Africans as well have every right to do 
what they must do to cater for themselves. 

  We cannot say, oh, don't do anything! America is already in the fray and you 
are going to get killed for free!! First of all that opinion alone should 
reveal to anyone with a modicum of intelligence, the kind of brain and person 
you are dealing with. To the Mulindwas, Africans should just shit back and let 
things go the way it is, for, America has entered the fray? Never mind the 
suffering and deaths that have been stalking Africans for ages!

  Question is why is Mulindwa pretending to be fighting neo-colonialism then?? 
Better yet, is Mulindwa REALLY fighting neo-colonialism as he would like to 
have Africans believe??

  If you have been following this man very carefully like we have, you will 
have noticed by now that neo-colonialists, in Africa, are only the British!! 
Full stop. If you disagree with that findings, dispute it. We are all ears.

  Now is this a neo-colonial figter??

  ARJP Management

  James Chikonamombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Edward, 

    If what you're saying is true (and I know it is), then
    Kenya and Africa are in deep s**t. We are in trouble.
    That's neo-colonialism at its worst; the way foreign
    powers dictate affairs in Kenya.

    Tanzania is just below Kenya, and then Mozambique is
    next door to Tanzania.......then you're in Zimbabwe.

    Lord Save Us
    James Chikonamombe
    ------------------------------------------------------
    --- Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    > James Chikonamombe
    > 
    > United States is already in the fry, you think it is
    > Mwai Kibaki holding the powers? Man oh man the west
    > runs Kenya period. You think they have bases in
    > Kenya you think they have large investments in Kenya
    > and just standing by and watching? Hehehehehe. The
    > Kenyan asking for United States to intervene is
    > simply un informed, forget him, like I stated over
    > and over, this thing is way out of reach to the
    > Kenya population, and any one going in the street
    > will die and for free.
    > 
    > Read the president's speech yesterday and understand
    > it.
    > 
    > EM
    > Toronto
    > 
    > The Mulindwas Communication Group
    > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is under anarchy"
    > Groupe de Communication Mulindwas
    > "Avec Yoweri Museveni, L'Ouganda East Dans
    > L'anarchie"
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: James Chikonamombe 
    > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:42 AM
    > Subject: Re: [Mwananchi] Africa Action Calls For
    > U.S. Leadership to Support Democracy
    > 
    > 
    > <<The U.S. must provide new coherent leadership to
    > drive international pressure on rival candidates
    > Mwai
    > Kibaki and Raila Odinga to adhere to the
    > democratic
    > process peacefully and put a stop to the
    > violence>>
    > 
    > I knew such a call was bound to occur. Asking the
    > USA
    > to intervene in the Kenyan crisis is like bringing
    > a
    > snake to a barby. Once the barby is over the snake
    > is
    > still there and it WILL THEN TURN ON YOU.
    > 
    > I'm surprised, or rather I'm not surprised, that
    > such
    > calls to the US are coming from the Kenyan
    > diaspora.
    > Once the US enters the fray it will NEVER LEAVE
    > and
    > all of its actions will be to its own benefit,
    > rather
    > than that of ordinary Kenyans.
    > 
    > Cry My Beloved Africa
    > James Chikonamombe
    > 
    >
    ------------------------------------------------------
    > --- yamanjanl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    > 
    > > Africa Action Calls For U.S. Leadership to
    > Support
    > > Democracy 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > Africa Action (Washington, DC)
    > > 
    > > 
    > > PRESS RELEASE
    > > 3 January 2008 
    > > Posted to the web 3 January 2008 
    > > Washington, DC 
    > > 
    > > In light of the serious human rights violations
    > and
    > > challenges to 
    > > stable governance Kenya has experienced in the
    > past
    > > week, Africa 
    > > Action calls for an immediate and comprehensive
    > > recount of 
    > > presidential ballots supervised by international
    > > election monitors, 
    > > and an end to the media broadcast ban. 
    > > 
    > > The clumsy series of contradictory remarks on
    > the
    > > election made so 
    > > far by U.S. officials have not been helpful in
    > > resolving the crisis 
    > > and have revealed underlying U.S. interests. The
    > > U.S. must provide 
    > > new coherent leadership to drive international
    > > pressure on rival 
    > > candidates Mwai Kibaki and Raila Odinga to
    > adhere to
    > > the democratic 
    > > process peacefully and put a stop to the
    > violence.
    > > The international 
    > > community must base its response to the
    > situation on
    > > the voices of 
    > > the Kenyan people and concentrate on addressing
    > not
    > > only the 
    > > immediate political crisis but also deeper
    > issues of
    > > social, 
    > > political and economic justice. U.S.-Kenya
    > policy
    > > should be people-
    > > centered and truly committed to robust
    > democratic
    > > processes rather 
    > > than defined by a narrow agenda of the "war on
    > > terror" and 
    > > international business interests. 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > The ugly scenes of violence and chaos that have
    > > emerged following 
    > > Kenya's disputed presidential polls are symptoms
    > of
    > > the greater 
    > > issues of poverty and socioeconomic inequality.
    > > Western observers 
    > > have held up Kenya as an economic dynamo for its
    > > high growth rates 
    > > and macroeconomic stability without considering
    > who
    > > benefits from 
    > > this development. Despite vigorous growth rates
    > of
    > > between five and 
    > > seven percent over the past three years, Kenya
    > is a
    > > country marked by 
    > > disparity. With a per capita income of just $540
    > and
    > > a current 
    > > ranking of 145 out of 177 in the United Nations'
    > > Human Development 
    > > Index, poverty is widespread. Some strides
    > towards
    > > economic justice 
    > > have been made in recent years. Notably, as
    > > president, Kibaki 
    > > succeeded in eliminating primary school fees.
    > > However, the volatility 
    > > around this election is testament to the fact
    > that
    > > many Kenyans are 
    > > still frustrated by poverty and a small elite
    > holds
    > > the majority of 
    > > their country's vaunted wealth. 
    > > 
    > > Kenya's 2002 elections generated a powerful
    > sense of
    > > optimism among 
    > > the population that reflected a deep popular
    > > commitment to democratic 
    > > ideals and a new future free of corruption. It
    > is
    > > disappointing that 
    > > these hopes have not materialized. This
    > challenge
    > > should galvanize 
    > > the U.S. and the international community to
    > support
    > > this young 
    > > democracy as it struggles to achieve its vision
    > of a
    > > truly 
    > > representative and responsive government. The
    > > African Union is 
    > > playing a critical role as a rapid responder to
    > help
    > > mediate the 
    > > political crisis. However, U.S. leadership and
    > > sustained diplomatic 
    > > pressure from the entire international community
    > is
    > > essential to 
    > > protecting human rights in Kenya and to a
    > successful
    > > mediation 
    > > between parties that results in a transparent
    > legal
    > > solution to the 
    > > dispute. 
    > > 
    > > Much has been made of the ethnic dimensions of
    > the
    > > conflict, but the 
    > > bottom line is that power hungry politicians can
    > 
    === message truncated ===

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