Fred

You claim that had the West intervened in Rwanda we would have not got the 
genocide, have you ever heard of the name Gen Delaire? That man is a Canadian 
general that was commanding the UN troops in Rwanda. This same General was the 
commander of the UN forces that were protecting the Kigali Airport, and he is 
he one that instructed the president's air craft to change course and fly into 
the air port by the route that the RPF was controlling, which gave them a 
chance to shoot it down.  Now this man makes a whole lots of conferences and he 
talks about the Rwandese genocide. When ever you see him, ask him one question. 
Was he working with RPF to send this air craft to them? For it is the shooting 
of his air craft that resulted into the genocide. What is it that general 
Dalire knows about the Rwandese genocide that he does not state? By the way I 
would encourage you to contact H Snow for he has written a whole lot about the 
General and his involvement into the creation of the Rwandese genocide.

Now my question to you, is General Dalaire a Western soldier? If so why do you 
claim that if the west was involved we would have not got the Rwandese 
genocide? By the way have you taken a time to study how Bill Clinton abandoned 
the Rwandese to an extent that he had to fly into Kigali and offer an official 
apology?

attack the people when you have the facts kindly for the arguments you have 
used are simply too loopy to even be worth a response.

EM
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  She is shinking lower and lower by the day. Begging, instead of thinking, is 
what she does best. 

  Now we think, she sees an opportunity to beg again. Hopefully this time 
around no one absolutely gives her even a panny, since she support frauds!!

  ARJP Management

  Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    You sorry piece of shit! If the US had intervened in Rwanda, we probably 
would have a million Rwandans alive today!
    Its this attitude of let Africans find solutions to African problems that 
has resulted in untold misery in the continent. Even
    more advanced areas like Croatia had to contend with international 
intervention. What, you afraid that your illigitimate government
    is going to be overthrown?  Africans have failed miserably in fixing their 
own problems and have refused to learn from History.

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      Thanks Wams.

      People of conscience do not have the luxury of politicking in face of 
humanitarian disasters. Yesterday, I placed a call to Africa Action to register 
my concern about the alleged "US-led" intervention. On what for what?

      The program director, Brian, returned my call this morning and we had an 
extensive and reasonable dialogue. First and foremost, Kenya's and Africa's 
institutions should not be undermined when these same impositions are 
non-starters elsewhere. For examples, no  foreign led-determination could be 
fed to Putin or Bush on his way to supreme court 2000. Neither was Yar'dua 
asked to resign. Therefore, bloodshed cannot be used as the least common 
intimidator and democratic wager.

      I understand these boards are overwhelmed by vulgar, Internet hustlers 
who cough and spew crass to engineer chaos. But what matters is the 
possibilities on land - we would be coordinating with conscientious Kenyans to 
focus on aid to the displaced and sensitize the fundamental need. Folding our 
arms is not an option. Most certainly: PEACE will PREVAIL.

      Keep increasing the peace.

      MsJoe




         


      In a message dated 1/4/2008 11:23:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
        MsJoe,

        Oh ya...PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD and Have EM do the same in Canada.

        Wams

        On 1/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        >
        >

        > Great. A lot of African women expressed the need and we will be 
taking that up. I will contact the Kenyan embassy today. Last night I placed a 
call to Mr. Lucas Kamani - affiliated with Kenya Christians.
        >
        >
        > In a message dated 1/4/2008 9:24:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > On 1/3/08, Wambui G-Updike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        > >
        >
        > >
        > > PKN
        > > A suggestion: KCA folks wherever they are could also
        > > gather support from their fellow workers. Most
        > > work-places have mechanisms in place for fundraisers -
        > > sometimes through their Human Resources offices.
        > >
        > > Others could check with their churches and religious
        > > communities, and from their networks of friends.
        > >
        > > This approach might be worth exploring because many in
        > > the west like to help but also to get a tax write off.
        > >
        > > Then perhaps they could contact KCA treasurer to
        > > figure out modalities of sending help to the victims
        > > of violence.
        > >
        > > Best,
        > > Wambuibgu
        > >
        >
        > > --- pkngunyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        > >
        > > > Members, I suggest that we start a fund to help
        > > > needy displaced
        > > > families. I know that it is early to determine how
        > > > this fund would
        > > > be disbursed and what kind of help is needed.
        > > >
        > > > But we have already heard from Hez, Pauline and
        > > > Daudi...we know that
        > > > there is need.
        > > >
        > > > I am also in touch with the Pastor of the KAG church
        > > > that was burnt
        > > > down in Eldoret, and he tells me that tey can do
        > > > with any help.
        > > >
        > > > We are also aware of the families camping in police
        > > > stations,
        > > > Churches, etc. Let us lead the way in start a fund
        > > > to help them,
        > > > regardless of their region and party ID.
        > > >
        > > > I am also made to understand that in Eastlands and
        > > > in Kibera/Mathare
        > > > Slums, there is food shortage.
        > > >
        > > > I suggest that we start a fundsdrive similar to the
        > > > one we did in
        > > > 1998.
        > > >
        > > > I have the following commitments...
        > > >
        > > > pkn 500.00
        > > > FM 500.00
        > > > Wams 200.00
        > > >
        > > > At the moment, any commitment is crucial to save a
        > > > life.
        > > >
        > > > MK/Exec, if you/KCA are for the idea, lets findout
        > > > how we can
        > > > proceed in giving help, while we explore/pursue
        > > > other solutions.
        > > >
        > > > ...pkn
        >
        > PKN,
        >
        > I agree.It will take ALOT OF MONEY.We need to talk to our local
        > churches and friends as well like we did during the bomb blast.The
        > best channes ''in my view".to borrow mutahis words is to go through
        > REDCROSS of Kenya.I just sent you a text from Mugi who is still in
        > Nairobi and he is of the same opinion.While some of us have families
        > outside central province, some dead or injured; we need to look at the
        > bigger picture and help in our own small ways to Orgs that are
        > directly dealing with the victims.Jamuhuri park is a refugeee camp as
        > we speak.I know Kenyans in the USA have so many churches and we all
        > can do something.
        >
        > Ok...lets have more pledges......................
        >
        > Wams
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Great. A lot of African women expressed the need and we will be 
taking that up. I will contact the Kenyan embassy today. Last night I placed a 
call to Mr. Lucas Kamani - affiliated with Kenya Christians.
        >
        >
        > In a message dated 1/4/2008 9:24:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > On 1/3/08, Wambui G-Updike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        > >
        >
        > >
        > > PKN
        > > A suggestion: KCA folks wherever they are could also
        > > gather support from their fellow workers. Most
        > > work-places have mechanisms in place for fundraisers -
        > > sometimes through their Human Resources offices.
        > >
        > > Others could check with their churches and religious
        > > communities, and from their networks of friends.
        > >
        > > This approach might be worth exploring because many in
        > > the west like to help but also to get a tax write off.
        > >
        > > Then perhaps they could contact KCA treasurer to
        > > figure out modalities of sending help to the victims
        > > of violence.
        > >
        > > Best,
        > > Wambuibgu
        > >
        >
        > > --- pkngunyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        > >
        > > > Members, I suggest that we start a fund to help
        > > > needy displaced
        > > > families. I know that it is early to determine how
        > > > this fund would
        > > > be disbursed and what kind of help is needed.
        > > >
        > > > But we have already heard from Hez, Pauline and
        > > > Daudi...we know that
        > > > there is need.
        > > >
        > > > I am also in touch with the Pastor of the KAG church
        > > > that was burnt
        > > > down in Eldoret, and he tells me that tey can do
        > > > with any help.
        > > >
        > > > We are also aware of the families camping in police
        > > > stations,
        > > > Churches, etc. Let us lead the way in start a fund
        > > > to help them,
        > > > regardless of their region and party ID.
        > > >
        > > > I am also made to understand that in Eastlands and
        > > > in Kibera/Mathare
        > > > Slums, there is food shortage.
        > > >
        > > > I suggest that we start a fundsdrive similar to the
        > > > one we did in
        > > > 1998.
        > > >
        > > > I have the following commitments...
        > > >
        > > > pkn 500.00
        > > > FM 500.00
        > > > Wams 200.00
        > > >
        > > > At the moment, any commitment is crucial to save a
        > > > life.
        > > >
        > > > MK/Exec, if you/KCA are for the idea, lets findout
        > > > how we can
        > > > proceed in giving help, while we explore/pursue
        > > > other solutions.
        > > >
        > > > ...pkn
        >
        > PKN,
        >
        > I agree.It will take ALOT OF MONEY.We need to talk to our local
        > churches and friends as well like we did during the bomb blast.The
        > best channes ''in my view".to borrow mutahis words is to go through
        > REDCROSS of Kenya.I just sent you a text from Mugi who is still in
        > Nairobi and he is of the same opinion.While some of us have families
        > outside central province, some dead or injured; we need to look at the
        > bigger picture and help in our own small ways to Orgs that are
        > directly dealing with the victims.Jamuhuri park is a refugeee camp as
        > we speak.I know Kenyans in the USA have so many churches and we all
        > can do something.
        >
        > Ok...lets have more pledges......................
        >
        > Wams
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >







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