Chaka Jay
Taxation is all over the place so I know it and how it has to be there, but it
has to be based on your income. Graduated tax was based on what is expected of
you to be an income. And UPC was wrong to maintain it. And I opine that we as
Ugandans have a God/constitutional given right to sue UPC as a party in a class
action on the trauma we as a country got out of that very terrible taxation
system. And I praise the Movement for listening to our calls and abolishing
it. And today I am going after Police Barracks so that the Movement also makes
a second bold step and shut them down.
We are going to build this country one step at a time sir.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chaka Jay
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 6:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; G_NET
Subject: Re: [UAH] THE DECENTRALIZATION OF UGANDA POLICE FORCE
EM: how about call this graduated tax as a contribution to the state Uganda. If
you need Uganda you must contribute to it. it is a patriotic duty to pay taxes
as we say in USA. I pay my taxes every April 15th because I know, the privilege
i enjoy in this country comes from shared sacrifices.
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From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; G_NET <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 5:03 PM
Subject: [UAH] THE DECENTRALIZATION OF UGANDA POLICE FORCE
Kale Kayihura
This debate is not about interests it is about national policy change. When you
erased graduated tax in Uganda you did not do it for the good of the Movement
but the good of Uganda the state, the next government after you, cannot return
it for it is changed for good. And if you are a politician replacing the
movement, and you start with we are going to bring it back, I laugh at you. If
this is a national policy change, it does not need any one to come to your
office it needs to be discussed here. Why did I raise it to you? For you know
the country, but you know the policing policy in Uganda. We need a
contribution of everyone in this forum if they are a representation of what
Ugandans think and believe into. I rather we discuss this issue in open and
public to allow it a chance to be challenged by the brains we have in this
great forum sir. And as a man that grand fathered this policy to see you
calling it into a closed session simply baffles me. And Yoswa Dambisya attacked
my writings I am going to respond on the week-end for it has been a little
hectic here, but I will respond for this is of that value to me and to all
Ugandans sir.
And with that I am changing the heading of the thread, so that we can be able
to go after it full force.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kale Kayihura
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:04 PM
To: Robukui
Cc: [email protected]; Hajji Kateregga Musaazi;
AllanBarigye.Rugos; Frank Mujabi; GookAkanga; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan Gen. hides in London///
you are making serious proposals. I invite you to my office and we discuss.
There are pros and cons. Come with an open mind.
Sent from
On May 28, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Robukui <[email protected]> wrote:
Simple,
Pay them a living wage, why should Ugandan tax layers build houses for the
Police, Teachers, Librarians, etc, the tax payer pays for certain services,
this idea that Mulindwa'a grandmother should pay for a house for someone who
chooses to serve the community they live.
Kale, decentraliZe the living day lights out of Policing and allow the local
Police Chiefs to make those decisions.
Local administrative issues like housing support/allowances should be
decentralized.
The Ugandan Civil service has to live within it's means, and serve the people.
The better question is, what plans are in store to transfer more Policing
authority(money) to the regions?
On May 28, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Kale Kayihura <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you, Ndugu. I get you. On the barracks, even if that was the best option,
where do we get the money to give our personnel to build themselves houses.
Sent from
On May 28, 2013, at 10:16 AM, "Robukui ." <[email protected]> wrote:
IGP Kale,
You know exactly what I am talking about, but for our purposes and for this
forum, I understand.
The ring, specifically, refers to layers of security. As a Presidential
detail, I see fully where you are coming from.
In your wisdom, you must believe, as ambitious as Tinye was/is, he has created
a special class of Ugandans, with the capability ( if his state protection was
ever dissolved) to bring him to justice.
Kale, as I said before, i am a strong believer that the army should not, and
can not do Police work.
We can have that debate any day.
To answer you bluntly, let Ugandans deal with Tinye. You will be surprised
beyond belief.
Nothing Tinye can sell, will change the status quo, that is a fact.
On a more serious note, you have to close ALL Police Barracks. The reason are
many and plenty full.
Viele GruBe
Robukui
On 27 May 2013 23:53, Kale Kayihura <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't understand what you are talking about. In fact, I had misunderstood
that the ring you were talking about was in respect of the President.
Otherwise, quite frankly I do not understand what you are talking about. And
please am Kale not his proxy.
Sent from
On May 28, 2013, at 9:46 AM, "Robukui ." <[email protected]> wrote:
IGP Kale,
You choose when your proxy can speak, as for Tinye, you surely don't believe
you are the only entity that monitored his movements in the UK? That
information is public on forums, beyond your reach( for now anyway, you know
Ugandans).
You or your proxy are limited in comments on Tinye, but you choose to comment
on this thread.
Your colleague, Tinye's hands are not clean, are you prepared to stand behind
his missions, as a commissioned NRA officer?
YOu walked into this one, Kale.
Viele GruBe
Robukui
On 27 May 2013 23:16, Kale Kayihura <[email protected]> wrote:
What ring? You go ahead and wish the country the worst. It is you who will be
surprised. Whatever you prefer to believe, history shall absolve us.
Sent from
On May 28, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Robukui ." <[email protected]> wrote:
Kale,
As I am sure you already know, he has a ring around him, it has to be an inside
job, Ugandans might surprise you.
Sometimes the cure is more painful, in the short term.
Viele GruBe
Robukui
On 27 May 2013 06:16, chaka Jay <[email protected]> wrote:
Ugandans are chicken thieves! All this years M7 has been ruling, beating
Ugandans, why on Earth does Ugandans revolt. I mean buy few AK47 and start
shooting back the policemen or anyone supporting this guy. How can one guy
tremble on the rights of 30 million plus people. Weak Ugandans all they know is
to drink and complain. Give them a couple of chicken legs they think that is
freedom.
God has curse you guys.
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>;
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan Gen. hides in London///
Abbey,
Tinye is not a small man, you know that, don't you? President Museveni is on
record for having said that, revolutionaries do not go like chicken thieves. My
understanding is that, he meant all of them. Tinye might be on a tactical
withdrawal mission in the UK therefore.
If indeed it is true that revolutionaries hate going some where like chicken
thieves, then some of us are eagerly waiting to see what next this Gen. has in
stock for us. But it could be true though. Have you seen president Museveni's
convoy passing by on Enteebbe rd? Bwana kubwa owns both lanes (going
/coming)......that is certainly not a chicken thief passing by.
Even if it was a chicken thief with a lot of style.....that is a bit too classy.
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From: Abbey Semuwemba <[email protected]>;
To: <[email protected]>;
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan General Says He Is Hiding in London - ABC
News
Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 7:46:04 PM
Peter,
I'm still not a fan of Gen.Tinye whatever storm he has caused in Kampala. But
if i happen to meet him on streets of London or anywhere in England, i would
gladly say 'hello', and that is where it ends.
The fact is that Tinye is gonna be an expensive asylum seeker for the British
government, but at the same time, they see him as a valuable asset in case of
any misunderstandings with the Uganda government. He is fleeing 'actual'
political persecution and looking for protection, and i think he will get it.
If the MI5 gave protection to the guy who wrote the satanic verses for years
and some of the people that fell out with Libya's Gadafi, why wouldn't they do
the same for Tinye.
Like i said, there is always a catch: giving them valuable info when they need
it about your opponent.
Abbey
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Gwokto La'Kitgum <[email protected]> wrote:
Fellow Natives,
Its time we took Tinye's split seriously. Once more, the is a dark cloud of
gloom slowly falling over the country. That it is Museveni's rib that has
chosen to leave his body's regime means there is a lot we natives dont know is
happening in Museveni's house and within his immediate kindred. So now what is
Tinye up to with his new-found fame? I should want to believe he will not want
to simply fade away from the Uganda's political scene and must be preparing a
special delivery for Museveni. Are we headed to another Luwero soon?
This is what I have come to know about violent changes in African regimes
recently. And it is that the West will agree to allow a war to go ahead if and
when its got to do with removing a despot like Museveni. Tinye will sure garner
sudden support right from his present spider hole - UK that is. ALL Western
governments DO NOT WANT Museveni anymore but they can not get on to removing
the beast. Now that a general from his own ethnicity and an in-law, above all,
is going to do the dirty job, the West will only be too eager to rid Uganda off
another and real brother to Gadhaffi - Museveni. I said sometimes ago that I
predicted Museveni's family scattering all over Africa like hyenas surprised
during a feast on a fellow dead hyena. Because with Museveni, the whole world
knows it will take AKs to remove him from power.
If I were him, I would start to make peace with Kony for readiness to grant him
refuge in his ICC-proof country called Garamba.
Its a Dog eat Dog World in Kaguta's house these day my country men and women
___________________________________
Gwokto La'Kitgum
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Abbey Semuwemba <[email protected]>
wrote:
So, he is not coming back? I knew it. Now, let him seek asylum properly
and ask for police protection.
He won't be allowed to release anymore state secrets or classified
information to the media once he seeks asylum here in the UK. That is
the drill!
Abbey
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