Ocen Nekyon
But do Egyptians have political aspirations? If yes what are they?
Now read that that question very carefully for I am not looking for They
want democracy For they dont. Or tell me what leader they are aspiring to.
You see that is the nightmare Ugandans are into. Ugandans stand up and sing
how dictatorial is Museveni, but when you ask them for an alternative,
Ugandans actually hand you David Tinyefunza that killed them in tens of
thousands in Northern Uganda.
May be these are simply hooligans that see a bread in standing in Tahrir
square !!!!!! Just may be.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 8:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UAH] RE: Calling the Egyptian change of guard a military coup
is misleading
Pojim;
Let me stick my neck out and predict that although the Moslem Brotherhood is
highly organized, they will lose the next election.
The Moslem Brotherhood accomplished what Mubarak never did, unite the
opposition! The military establishment will force the small parties together
just as they did this time.
Morsi crime is he tried to consolidate his power which he overestimated, too
quickly.
The irony of ironies is that riots against Mubarak were as a result of
people protesting police brutality. This time the very police were part of
the riots against Morsi with the support of the populace.
One cannot make this stuff up.
Ocen
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From: edward pojim
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 19:49 PM
To: [email protected]; 'Oryema Johnson'
Reply To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; 'G_NET'; [email protected];
'gombya henry'
Subject: Re: [UAH] RE: Calling the Egyptian change of guard a military coup
is
misleading
Edwad Mulindwa and Oryema Johnon;
To paraphrase Johnnie Carson, the former US Assistant Secretary of State for
African Affairs, elections have consequences.
Like an arranged marriage, the Egyptians went to the polls and voted for
Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood on the faith that they would get to know
each other and fall in love. And just like in arranged marriages, the voters
saw a lot they didn't like from new "spouse", thus the annulment of this
marriage.
A week or so before Morsi was elected, I cautioned here that we would be
witnessing the Palestanian quagmire replicated across the Nile. When the
Palestanians were forced to hold "free and fair" elections, and they elected
Hamas, US, Israel and their allies went ballistic.
Condi Rice, then Secretary of State, and President Bush declared openly that
US would not engage the "terrorist Hamas" in any dialogue. Yet, Hamas was
elected by majority vote in an election that was forced on the Palestanians
by US and Israel!
Now, let's see what will happen if elections were called later this year,
and the Muslim Brotherhood is elected again!
Pojim
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
To: 'Oryema Johnson' <[email protected]>; 'uga heart'
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; 'G_NET' <[email protected]>;
[email protected]; 'gombya henry' <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: [UAH] RE: Calling the Egyptian change of guard a military coup is
misleading
OJ
You have written very well, I am going to take a very different path though.
When the military suspends an elected government it means it is up and above
the constitution, that is a very dangerous path to walk into, secondly this
government was elected by the people, how does removing it by a gun be an
indication that this is a military of the people? Many months ago when the
riots of Their square started I complained about them, and for several
reasons, we change governments through election not through being hooligans,
Egyptians decided to become hooligans on streets. And as many of you praised
them, I saw an immediate danger, because the Egyptian population is
largely very educated and very young, with such a back ground one would
expect you to know that hooliganism is wrong. They did not recognize that.
Now let us go to the matter of Their square.
The population in masses went to the square in opposition to Hosni Mubarak,
they also went to the square in opposition to the army for they claimed it
supported Mubarak and maintained him to power. After many days of strife
Mubarak left office, and the people demanded for an election, which they
got and elected Mohammed Morsi in very high numbers. The people took the
streets, for now they are going to start to build their country. But it is
important to recognize that when Morsi was sworn into power, the people
actually never left the square, only that their numbers drastically dropped,
but they were still there and one wondered what they now wanted if Mubarak
was the problem. They have now turned around and hate Morsi who has been
sent packing but with the people supporting the army as if they had an
option to say no. OJ the reason we have failed in Uganda is because our
people have deserted the system to hooliganism. Hooligans have no political
agenda no leadership and no political affiliation, they only pump noise.
When you put election in Uganda today Museveni wins for he is the only
organized thief, the rest of the opposition members are hunting down for
money and the population is burning building structures. But that is the
same disease eating MDC in Zimbabwe.
What is funny is that when you look critically on Uganda and Egypt
population, most of it is women. Women in both countries out beat the men by
and far. Now you can extrapolate that as you so wish. Lastly, as Egyptians
fail to settle with an elected government they need to realize that most of
their economy depends on tourism. As long as The Their square is occupied I
am not going to go to Egypt to visit the catacombs. Which leaves them with
one source of income, an American administration that is going to borrow
money from China and hand it to them.
How long will the American economy stand that?
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: Oryema Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 6:09 AM
To: m e; uga heart
Cc: [email protected]; G_NET; [email protected];
gombya henry
Subject: RE: Calling the Egyptian change of guard a military coup is
misleading
Calling the take over of Morsi's government a military coup is not only
misleading, but also disrespecting the popular will of the people. At best,
this should be called "The People's Coup" in which the Egyptian military
participated. Twenty million people demonstrating and calling for change day
in and day out, left the military with no choice but to join the party. It
is a clear indication that the Egyptian military is a people's army and not
a bunch of thugs that belongs to and protects their commander in chief only
like our Ugandan military who will go at length to shoot and kill innocent
demonstrators calling for similar change of guard like the Egyptians have
just done.
The Egyptian army has behaved in the most dignified way for the first time
in the history of any military coups around the world, but in particular
Africa. First and foremost, Morsi was given 2 days to try and find a common
ground between his party and the people, instead he went on a national TV
defiantly rejecting the military call for constructive dialogue..Democracy
is not just being elected by the people to the highest office in the land,
but it is also an acceptance of those who are marginalized. For this, I
fully support the action of the Egyptian army regardless of what Western
Democrats and Liberals think. What is wrong with other parts of the world
developing their own ways of politics and democracy in which the military is
part and parcel? After all, they are citizens too and not some hired
assassins. For how long will the world remain slave of Western ways of
political thoughts and ideals? Don't other people have values and culture
too? Common folks, for a change look the other way, than this
mono-directional path we have been accustomed to, since Plato's Republic was
written and published becoming the only Political Bible from which we derive
all these democratic flares be it in the remotest parts of Ecuador or
Somalia where some have never even heard of the name Plato, nor the book,
The Republic.
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