Ugandans
What Paul Njoki has written is very telling and we need to take it in our
hearts. I knew Col. Ogole while in Uganda, he was one of the very good men
in that government. He is a man that no one can stand to accuse of wrong
doing, but Paul Njoki is right to accuse him for a very simple reason, as
much as Ogole was a good man in Uganda, he failed to disassociate himself
from the government agencies that oppressed the population at a time. It is
to take a stand and a public stand that this is wrong and I am not going to
be apart if it. That is what is eating Ogole today. When an army barracks
like Kireka barracks becomes a public killing center of Uganda in day light,
and Ogole is in a uniform in Kampala and he failes to distance himself from
such actions, he creates a Paul Njoki for himself. Now I was in Luwero at
time too, and there is a part that many of Njoki class fail to realize that
the sufferings of Ugandans in Luwero was crated equally by NRA and UNLF, but
there are clear instances where the terrorism of Ugandans happened in
clearly government controlled locations, and there must never be a debate
about that. And those were the times when Ogole would have stood up to
isolate himself from them and he simply did not.
There are people that stand to claim we have nothing to do with the
atrocities of the government, and this reminds me of Abdul Kateregga who
always claims to be a very small man in just a news print and not the
government. That is all true, but what we call a government is from as up
top on the president to as down low to Ahmed Kateregga. When the population
is oppressed, all of you are equally responsible for their outcry. And let
me also state this too, it is very dangerous to live so naively as Kateregga
that denies that he is a part and parcel of this autocratic government, for
you refuse to enjoy the crams when the enjoyment continues, when youre
going to suffer the very same fate as any other true Movementists, for trust
me at the fall of The government, whoever will look for the face of Muhoozi
will look for the face of Kateregga, so you might as well eat when you can.
Bad governance is very terrible to our country, but we all must take that
extra step to isolate ourselves from such, when you see Ogole with
Tinyefunza sitting on a single table, you actually realize that every game
has an end, for even in my small imagination, that is a meeting I never
expected to ever take place and yet it did. So dont count out a meeting
between Kale Kayihura and EM in 2015.
Let us learn to be nice to each other it pays in a long run or we will end
up with a short end of the stick that Ogole holds today.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Njoki
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:35 AM
To: ugandans-at-heart
Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
Charles,
Was the truth, reconciliation and whatever cousin to them you are talking
about not necessary when the Ogoles had the power to call for them. Why are
they calling for reconciliation only now when they are on the receiving end?
Which Ogole's community do you expect to come up and testify against him?
Was his community living in Luwero? I'm one of those who would choose
Museveni if there was only Museveni and Ogole to choose from.
Paul Njoki
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Aliga Charles <[email protected]>
wrote:
Pojim,
Have you asked their communities and they say they hate them (Sejusa and
Ogole)? Or are you
assuming that because they are being blamed, every body including their
communities hate them. Think twice,
othewise, you may be the one on the wrong. It would be good to use truth
telling and accountability to see how
many from their communties will come to testify against them, no you or me
to decide and judge they way I see you are doing.
_____
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:59:40 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
To: [email protected]
Charles;
You are engaging in a communal blackmail, the equivalent of saying that
Sejusa, Mande, Ogole, etc did what they did on behalf of their communities.
Pojim
From: Aliga Charles <[email protected]>
To: uganda forum <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
Pojim,
What you forget is that, the Sejusa and Ogole's are not allone, they have
relatives, friends and well-whisers who can contribute to the struggle well
knowing that their dear one is also in the struggle. Buy sidelining them
means cutting out a big junck of their supporters for the struggle. That
means handing them over to the M7/NRA/M. There is a better way to purnished
them, (Truth telling and reconciliation/court) not just jumping up and dwon
aganist them at the infancy of the struggle. At this materials time, we
need every stone that is against the regime.
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:23:32 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
To: [email protected]
George and Charles;
I do not have any personal problems with Ogole, Sejusa, Mande, etc.
My main concern with this group of Ugandans is that they were instrumental
in setting up the stage under which we are today. Whether collectively, or
individually, they made immense contribution to the realization of
Museveni's dream to rule Uganda until he takes in his last breathe.
Sam Mande has been laboring lately to talk his way out his culpability by
incriminating Sejusa, who, for his part, has been beating the war drum to
convince us that he never really meant that much to Museveni!
As for Col. Ogole, I strongly doubt if he has any remaining role to play in
Uganda's politics, period. So, I don't see that much value in lining up
behind this group as a way to get rid of Museveni.
Pojim
From: George Okello <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
Colonel Ogole is doing well here in London. I last met him at the
Lango Youth Launch last month where he was quest of honour and gave a
very inspiring speech to the young people. he seemed to be passing on
the baton, in my intepretation of his speech.
George Okello
On 9/30/13, Aliga Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pojim,
> I disagree with you take. No ugandan should be discriminated because of
age,
> his/her past or any reason so long as he/she is against the present
regime.
> Every ugandan should be given a chance to contribute to the struggle to
> remove the ogre. Some times those who have erred in the past can repent
and
> do a better job than those who have not. By excluding some ugandans, you
are
> worst than the people you claim to be fighting (M7/NRA/M). When M7 and is
> bandits were in the bush they were accepting any opposing fighting forces
> who surrender. That was the trick they used to weaken the UNLA. For some
of
> you to begin excluding disserters from NRA/M, you are fighting for them.
> They will use it to turn people (pizants) against your forces.
> There is a saying that, an elephant fall a tree that will be used to roast
> its meat when it dies. Some UPAF are the trees that should be use to roast
> M7 and his goons out of power so long as they are out of the system. Those
> of Ogole and Sejusa am sure will not have the interest to stay in
government
> for long. Their contribution can even save them. Discrimination should be
> and end with NRA/M exit from power.
>
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:22:43 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> Edward Mulindwa;
>
> Any serious talk about where Uganda heads from now should exclude these
> three men.
>
> Pojim
>
>
>
> From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; G_NET <[email protected]>; 'Oryema Johnson'
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:57 PM
> Subject: RE: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Barigye
>
> When you see Tinyefunza now talking to Samson Mande you already have a
> solution, they are going to be like an Amoeba. Self-destruct. Do you
> really in your poor mind see those two working together after Museveni
has
> been thrown out? Do you see Tinyefunza and Ogole working together after
> Museveni has been thrown out? Samson Mande and Mugisha Muntu will look so
> closely at each other, and whoever blinks first will be shot by the other
> for they treated each other very terribly. Betty Kamya is going to fail to
> work with any one for as soon as Museveni is driven out she will fail to
> shut up, and Betty Kamya unlike Getrude Njuba in Luwero, she is too old to
> inseminate, so who really needs her in the bigger picture after Musevenis
> departure? Look this is good just let it take its course.
>
> Now sit, watch and learn !!!!!
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:44 PM
> To: U-A-H
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
> EM,
>
>
>
> How do we get rid of Museveni and his gang of thieves?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> For some unknown reason I thought he was dead already. Next time I am in
> London I am going to look him out.
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gwokto La'Kitgum
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:08 PM
> To: ugandans-at-heart
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
>
>
> EM,
>
>
>
> Dude is freaking gone beyond expiry date. So if him, why should we want
> Museveni gone? They shouldnt be posting his picture along with the
youthful
> Sejusa. That will scare more shit out of natives.
>
>
>
>
>
> ___________________________________
> Gwokto La'Kitgum
>
> "Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Museveni abewo pakalast!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> At the rate some of these people are hunting down to be in power, they are
> soon going to go to Saudi Arabia and Akokoro to consult with Iddi Amin and
> AMO. Is Ogole still talking a solution to Uganda politics at that age?
>
> So if they can be in opposition for life why shouldnt Museveni be in
state
> house for life? Geez !!!!
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rehema Uganda
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:58 AM
>
>
> To: Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Forum
>
> Subject: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
>
> Uganda: Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole, Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Special To The ...September 28,2013
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gen. Sejusa left, shown with Col. Ogole
> [Exclusive]
> Former antagonists in the Luweero war that brought the National Resistance
> Movement to power, General David Sejusa and Colonel John Ogole, have been
> meeting in London over several months and have agreed to work together to
> end the current oligarchy in Kampala.
> Sejusa was a top commander in the NRA rebels while Ogole led the charge to
> defend the government on the field of battle. These two war veterans have
> been leading their respective teams drawn from inside Uganda and those
> living in exile.
> General Sejusa is one of the leaders of Free Uganda, a newly-formed
Ugandan
> liberation platform that has set out to unify and mobilize the various
> forces, political organizations and individuals opposed to the Gen. Yoweri
> Museveni dictatorship.
> The two former antagonists wouldn't provide the details of their
discussions
> at this time; both Gen. Sejusa and Col. Ogole confirmed meeting and
burying
> the hatchet for the sake of Uganda.
> It wasn't possible to immediately confirm whether Dr. Kizza Besigye, a
> former fighter and now leading opponent of the Museveni regime, attended
> some of the meetings.
> In the past Dr. Kizza Besigye has publicly confirmed meeting with Colonel
> Ogole. Recently, Dr. Besigye also confirmed meeting General Sejusa, saying
> that the two were now working together to effect political change in
Uganda.
> "For [the] sake of Uganda, everything is possible, including admitting
past
> mistakes and moving forward, as a way of atonement," Gen. Sejusa says,
> commenting on meeting with Col Ogole. "Reconciliation of the Ugandan
people
> is the only viable way to bring about sustainable peace in our country.
Our
> mission is to secure the future of Uganda so we must not use the past to
> obscure the mission of today."
> "It's true we have been meeting," Col Ogole said. "Uganda is bigger than
all
> of us. And everything that can bring peace and reconciliation in our
country
> must be done irrespective of history both real or perceived. This is a
> historic opportunity to heal the wounds of our country. It will advance a
> sense of nationhood for all the People of Uganda. In the post-Museveni
> Uganda we will all feel that we belong."
> - See more at:
>
http://www.blackstarnews.com/global-politics/africa/uganda-gen-sejusa-and-co
l-ogole-former-war-antagonists-meet.html#sthash.qCj4dd1Z.dpuf
>
>
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