Abaami Ahmed Kateregga and Paul Njoki
Kindly allow me to respond to your writings with only two quote, and one
hopes they both deliver it all.
A} What we call a government is from as up top on the president to as
down low to Ahmed Kateregga. When the population is oppressed, all of you
are equally responsible for their outcry. -------Edward Mulindwa
B} It is not the noise that you make when out of power that matters. It is
the noise you failed to make when in power that does. ----------------Paul
Njoki
Enjoy the evening gentlemen.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ahmed Kateregga
Musaazi
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:04 AM
To: ugandans-at-heart
Subject: Re: {UAH} HERE IS WHERE OGOLE FUALTERED
Forumists, personal reconciliation at an individual level is not enough. We
nedd a trith and reconciliation commission. As for butchering Kateregga
after the fall of NRM regime, l think we have put in place a cultre of
regular elections which should be nmore free and fair and there is no need
for violence and bloodshed.
But honestly. l am neither in the category of those that have looted the
country, or those that are eating.
l an only a professional and practicing journalist and a voluntary community
and media mobiliser.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Njoki <[email protected]> wrote:
Edward,
I have with keen interest been following the tone in whatever you
right. In my opinion, you have steadily drifted from extreme left to
now centre. I guess I should start thinking that you are
physiologically preparing us for that meeting with afande Kaihura in
2015? The timing would be perfect. Remember when Wegulo, Wangol et al
had the "meeting" with afande Kayihura's freinds and the impact that
had on the undecided voters! I may of course think otherwise later
today but as of now that is my opinion.
Back to Ogole and Sejusa, to me, it is not the noise that you make
when out of power that matters. It is the noise you failed to make
when in power that does.
Paul Njoki
On 10/1/13, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ugandans
>
>
>
> What Paul Njoki has written is very telling and we need to take it in our
> hearts. I knew Col. Ogole while in Uganda, he was one of the very good men
> in that government. He is a man that no one can stand to accuse of wrong
> doing, but Paul Njoki is right to accuse him for a very simple reason, as
> much as Ogole was a good man in Uganda, he failed to disassociate himself
> from the government agencies that oppressed the population at a time. It
is
> to take a stand and a public stand that this is wrong and I am not going
to
> be apart if it. That is what is eating Ogole today. When an army barracks
> like Kireka barracks becomes a public killing center of Uganda in day
> light,
> and Ogole is in a uniform in Kampala and he failes to distance himself
from
> such actions, he creates a Paul Njoki for himself. Now I was in Luwero at
> time too, and there is a part that many of Njoki class fail to realize
that
> the sufferings of Ugandans in Luwero was crated equally by NRA and UNLF,
> but
> there are clear instances where the terrorism of Ugandans happened in
> clearly government controlled locations, and there must never be a debate
> about that. And those were the times when Ogole would have stood up to
> isolate himself from them and he simply did not.
>
>
>
> There are people that stand to claim we have nothing to do with the
> atrocities of the government, and this reminds me of Abdul Kateregga who
> always claims to be a very small man in just a news print and not the
> government. That is all true, but what we call a government is from as up
> top on the president to as down low to Ahmed Kateregga. When the
population
> is oppressed, all of you are equally responsible for their outcry. And let
> me also state this too, it is very dangerous to live so naively as
> Kateregga
> that denies that he is a part and parcel of this autocratic government,
for
> you refuse to enjoy the crams when the enjoyment continues, when youre
> going to suffer the very same fate as any other true Movementists, for
> trust
> me at the fall of The government, whoever will look for the face of
Muhoozi
> will look for the face of Kateregga, so you might as well eat when you
can.
>
>
>
> Bad governance is very terrible to our country, but we all must take that
> extra step to isolate ourselves from such, when you see Ogole with
> Tinyefunza sitting on a single table, you actually realize that every
game
> has an end, for even in my small imagination, that is a meeting I never
> expected to ever take place and yet it did. So dont count out a meeting
> between Kale Kayihura and EM in 2015.
>
>
>
> Let us learn to be nice to each other it pays in a long run or we will end
> up with a short end of the stick that Ogole holds today.
>
>
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
>
>
>
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Njoki
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:35 AM
> To: ugandans-at-heart
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
>
> Charles,
>
> Was the truth, reconciliation and whatever cousin to them you are talking
> about not necessary when the Ogoles had the power to call for them. Why
are
> they calling for reconciliation only now when they are on the receiving
> end?
>
>
>
> Which Ogole's community do you expect to come up and testify against him?
> Was his community living in Luwero? I'm one of those who would choose
> Museveni if there was only Museveni and Ogole to choose from.
>
>
>
> Paul Njoki
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Aliga Charles <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Pojim,
>
>
>
> Have you asked their communities and they say they hate them (Sejusa and
> Ogole)? Or are you
>
> assuming that because they are being blamed, every body including their
> communities hate them. Think twice,
>
> othewise, you may be the one on the wrong. It would be good to use truth
> telling and accountability to see how
>
> many from their communties will come to testify against them, no you or me
> to decide and judge they way I see you are doing.
>
> _____
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:59:40 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
> To: [email protected]
>
> Charles;
>
>
>
> You are engaging in a communal blackmail, the equivalent of saying that
> Sejusa, Mande, Ogole, etc did what they did on behalf of their
communities.
>
>
>
>
> Pojim
>
>
>
> From: Aliga Charles <[email protected]>
> To: uganda forum <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:44 AM
> Subject: RE: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
>
> Pojim,
>
>
>
> What you forget is that, the Sejusa and Ogole's are not allone, they have
> relatives, friends and well-whisers who can contribute to the struggle
well
> knowing that their dear one is also in the struggle. Buy sidelining them
> means cutting out a big junck of their supporters for the struggle. That
> means handing them over to the M7/NRA/M. There is a better way to
purnished
> them, (Truth telling and reconciliation/court) not just jumping up and
dwon
> aganist them at the infancy of the struggle. At this materials time, we
> need every stone that is against the regime.
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:23:32 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
> To: [email protected]
>
> George and Charles;
>
>
>
> I do not have any personal problems with Ogole, Sejusa, Mande, etc.
>
>
>
> My main concern with this group of Ugandans is that they were instrumental
> in setting up the stage under which we are today. Whether collectively, or
> individually, they made immense contribution to the realization of
> Museveni's dream to rule Uganda until he takes in his last breathe.
>
>
>
> Sam Mande has been laboring lately to talk his way out his culpability by
> incriminating Sejusa, who, for his part, has been beating the war drum to
> convince us that he never really meant that much to Museveni!
>
>
>
> As for Col. Ogole, I strongly doubt if he has any remaining role to play
in
> Uganda's politics, period. So, I don't see that much value in lining up
> behind this group as a way to get rid of Museveni.
>
>
>
> Pojim
>
>
>
> From: George Okello <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>
>
> Colonel Ogole is doing well here in London. I last met him at the
> Lango Youth Launch last month where he was quest of honour and gave a
> very inspiring speech to the young people. he seemed to be passing on
> the baton, in my intepretation of his speech.
>
> George Okello
>
> On 9/30/13, Aliga Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Pojim,
>> I disagree with you take. No ugandan should be discriminated because of
> age,
>> his/her past or any reason so long as he/she is against the present
> regime.
>> Every ugandan should be given a chance to contribute to the struggle to
>> remove the ogre. Some times those who have erred in the past can repent
> and
>> do a better job than those who have not. By excluding some ugandans, you
> are
>> worst than the people you claim to be fighting (M7/NRA/M). When M7 and is
>> bandits were in the bush they were accepting any opposing fighting forces
>> who surrender. That was the trick they used to weaken the UNLA. For some
> of
>> you to begin excluding disserters from NRA/M, you are fighting for them.
>> They will use it to turn people (pizants) against your forces.
>> There is a saying that, an elephant fall a tree that will be used to
>> roast
>> its meat when it dies. Some UPAF are the trees that should be use to
>> roast
>> M7 and his goons out of power so long as they are out of the system.
>> Those
>> of Ogole and Sejusa am sure will not have the interest to stay in
> government
>> for long. Their contribution can even save them. Discrimination should be
>> and end with NRA/M exit from power.
>>
>> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:22:43 -0700
>> From: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists,
>> Meet
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> Edward Mulindwa;
>>
>> Any serious talk about where Uganda heads from now should exclude these
>> three men.
>>
>> Pojim
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]; G_NET <[email protected]>; 'Oryema
>> Johnson'
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:57 PM
>> Subject: RE: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists,
>> Meet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Barigye
>>
>> When you see Tinyefunza now talking to Samson Mande you already have a
>> solution, they are going to be like an Amoeba. Self-destruct. Do you
>> really in your poor mind see those two working together after Museveni
> has
>> been thrown out? Do you see Tinyefunza and Ogole working together after
>> Museveni has been thrown out? Samson Mande and Mugisha Muntu will look so
>> closely at each other, and whoever blinks first will be shot by the other
>> for they treated each other very terribly. Betty Kamya is going to fail
>> to
>> work with any one for as soon as Museveni is driven out she will fail to
>> shut up, and Betty Kamya unlike Getrude Njuba in Luwero, she is too old
>> to
>> inseminate, so who really needs her in the bigger picture after
>> Musevenis
>> departure? Look this is good just let it take its course.
>>
>> Now sit, watch and learn !!!!!
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th
>>
>>
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
>> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
>> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
> machafuko"
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:44 PM
>> To: U-A-H
>> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists,
>> Meet
>>
>>
>> EM,
>>
>>
>>
>> How do we get rid of Museveni and his gang of thieves?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For some unknown reason I thought he was dead already. Next time I am in
>> London I am going to look him out.
>>
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th
>>
>>
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
>> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
>> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
> machafuko"
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gwokto La'Kitgum
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:08 PM
>> To: ugandans-at-heart
>> Subject: Re: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists,
>> Meet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> EM,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dude is freaking gone beyond expiry date. So if him, why should we want
>> Museveni gone? They shouldnt be posting his picture along with the
> youthful
>> Sejusa. That will scare more shit out of natives.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________
>> Gwokto La'Kitgum
>>
>> "Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Museveni abewo pakalast!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> At the rate some of these people are hunting down to be in power, they
>> are
>> soon going to go to Saudi Arabia and Akokoro to consult with Iddi Amin
>> and
>> AMO. Is Ogole still talking a solution to Uganda politics at that age?
>>
>> So if they can be in opposition for life why shouldnt Museveni be in
> state
>> house for life? Geez !!!!
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th
>>
>>
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
>> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
>> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
> machafuko"
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rehema Uganda
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:58 AM
>>
>>
>> To: Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Forum
>>
>> Subject: {UAH} Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole Former War Antagonists, Meet
>>
>>
>>
>> Uganda: Gen. Sejusa And Col. Ogole, Former War Antagonists, Meet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Special To The ...September 28,2013
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gen. Sejusa left, shown with Col. Ogole
>> [Exclusive]
>> Former antagonists in the Luweero war that brought the National
>> Resistance
>> Movement to power, General David Sejusa and Colonel John Ogole, have been
>> meeting in London over several months and have agreed to work together to
>> end the current oligarchy in Kampala.
>> Sejusa was a top commander in the NRA rebels while Ogole led the charge
>> to
>> defend the government on the field of battle. These two war veterans have
>> been leading their respective teams drawn from inside Uganda and those
>> living in exile.
>> General Sejusa is one of the leaders of Free Uganda, a newly-formed
> Ugandan
>> liberation platform that has set out to unify and mobilize the various
>> forces, political organizations and individuals opposed to the Gen.
>> Yoweri
>> Museveni dictatorship.
>> The two former antagonists wouldn't provide the details of their
> discussions
>> at this time; both Gen. Sejusa and Col. Ogole confirmed meeting and
> burying
>> the hatchet for the sake of Uganda.
>> It wasn't possible to immediately confirm whether Dr. Kizza Besigye, a
>> former fighter and now leading opponent of the Museveni regime, attended
>> some of the meetings.
>> In the past Dr. Kizza Besigye has publicly confirmed meeting with Colonel
>> Ogole. Recently, Dr. Besigye also confirmed meeting General Sejusa,
>> saying
>> that the two were now working together to effect political change in
> Uganda.
>> "For [the] sake of Uganda, everything is possible, including admitting
> past
>> mistakes and moving forward, as a way of atonement," Gen. Sejusa says,
>> commenting on meeting with Col Ogole. "Reconciliation of the Ugandan
> people
>> is the only viable way to bring about sustainable peace in our country.
> Our
>> mission is to secure the future of Uganda so we must not use the past to
>> obscure the mission of today."
>> "It's true we have been meeting," Col Ogole said. "Uganda is bigger than
> all
>> of us. And everything that can bring peace and reconciliation in our
> country
>> must be done irrespective of history both real or perceived. This is a
>> historic opportunity to heal the wounds of our country. It will advance a
>> sense of nationhood for all the People of Uganda. In the post-Museveni
>> Uganda we will all feel that we belong."
>> - See more at:
>>
>
http://www.blackstarnews.com/global-politics/africa/uganda-gen-sejusa-and-co
> l-ogole-former-war-antagonists-meet.html#sthash.qCj4dd1Z.dpuf
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
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